Strikes

[remembercolinlee]

London Cabbies were not happy with Uber drivers, because they were able to undercut them, some maybe by illegal practises, to which I accept your point - but one point it does not change is the ease of automation/technology, which enabled their customers to call a cab a lot easier and cashless.

So yes, I'd agree their working conditions were poor, but they also invested in technology, which to the younger generation was the way forward.

But they won improved conditions .... by being part of a union...

THE WORKERS UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED

 

[brb]

Uber drivers tend to not have **** right wing opinions unlike black cabs.

I didn't know that, well could also argue railways have shhite left wing opinions that need to be booted into the 21st Century, rather than being run by dinosaurs.

I've mentioned several times that guards are unhelpful, no one has corrected me on that - we've had a couple of examples from other people, how unhelpful they actually are.

 

[haslam]

The capitalist ideal of "if they don't like it they should just go and get better paid work" in action.

It's really good that we don't need nurses.

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It's the same in teaching (vacancies up by 67% as a third quit within 5 years and half within 10)

I've never thought anything about nurses, I've already made it clear that I support the nurses. That still does not steer away from the fact that one strike led to a lot of strikes.

So putting nurses to one side, what is the railways argument, even on here it was mentioned to me about 'ticket offices' sorry bro but I didn't make that up, I've also seen it stated on other political threads on not606 as 'ticket offices & guards' - well I see it that everything else has turned to automation and people have happily welcomed the changes why not the railways, live lines or something I think @BobbyD said.

Then the guards, since when has there every been a helpful guard, they are always miserable old fookers, due to retire, or youngsters standing around with their hands in the pockets doing nothing. What private business would employ people to be like that.

So nah mate, good try though.

I agree in part but I'd argue your starting "fact" is incorrect though. One strike did not lead to a lot of strikes. 10+ years of under inflation pay rises sowed the seeds and then a sudden spike in inflation made it happen. The others aren't striking because they've got the idea from the news.

 

[remembercolinlee]

I didn't know that, well could also argue railways have shhite left wing opinions that need to be booted into the 21st Century, rather than being run by dinosaurs.

I've mentioned several times that guards are unhelpful, no one has corrected me on that - we've had a couple of examples from other people, how unhelpful they actually are.

If you wear a union badge they are very helpful

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I didn't know that, well could also argue railways have shhite left wing opinions that need to be booted into the 21st Century, rather than being run by dinosaurs.

I've mentioned several times that guards are unhelpful, no one has corrected me on that - we've had a couple of examples from other people, how unhelpful they actually are.

We’re already in the 21st century.

 

[brb]

But they won improved conditions .... by being part of a union...

THE WORKERS UNITED WILL NEVER BE DEFEATED

I've already agreed in that situation, you writing in capitals don't change that.

However, lots of London cabbies were unhappy how Uber operate, but the youngsters still chose the gangsters as their mode of transport, and didn't really care if there driver was being treated like shhite or if they were doing the London cab driver out of business.

 

[brb]

We’re already in the 21st century.

Yeah we are but sadly railway workers are stuck in a 1970's timewarp.

 

[brb]

If you wear a union badge they are very helpful

Filth.

 

[Archers Road]

I didn't know that, well could also argue railways have shhite left wing opinions that need to be booted into the 21st Century, rather than being run by dinosaurs.

I've mentioned several times that guards are unhelpful, no one has corrected me on that - we've had a couple of examples from other people, how unhelpful they actually are.

Left wing opinions are considerably less ****e than Tory voting Posh Boy loving brainwashed Daily Mail ***** spanner, drown the immigrants in the channel, blame Brussels for everything, right wing opinions. Welcome to the point.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Yeah we are but sadly railway workers are stuck in a 1970's timewarp.

Being shat on by a corrupt and incompetent government for over a decade is a sadly modern day phenomenon. I don’t really get why you have such beef with them but there’s a lot about you I doubt I’ll ever get.

 

[remembercolinlee]

I've already agreed in that situation, you writing in capitals don't change that.

However, lots of London cabbies were unhappy how Uber operate, but the youngsters still chose the gangsters as their mode of transport, and didn't really care if there driver was being treated like shhite.

I blame Thatcher's no such thing as society bollocks...Tebbitt was a **** too.

Keep the red flag flying here

 

[brb]

The capitalist ideal of "if they don't like it they should just go and get better paid work" in action.

It's really good that we don't need nurses.

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It's the same in teaching (vacancies up by 67% as a third quit within 5 years and half within 10)


I agree in part but I'd argue your starting "fact" is incorrect though. One strike did not lead to a lot of strikes. 10+ years of under inflation pay rises sowed the seeds and then a sudden spike in inflation made it happen. The others aren't striking because they've got the idea from the news.

I'm bored with you now.

 

[remembercolinlee]

Filth.

Nah...they hate unions...think they're banned from joining one too

 

[brb]

I blame Thatcher's no such thing as society bollocks...Tebbitt was a **** too.

Keep the red flag flying here

Weren't it Tebbitt that said get on your bike. We have bike lanes now.

 

[brb]

Left wing opinions are considerably less ****e than Tory voting Posh Boy loving brainwashed Daily Mail ***** spanner, drown the immigrants in the channel, blame Brussels for everything, right wing opinions. Welcome to the point.

I'm off to watch the football on tv now. But at least I depart knowing London Cabbies are right wing facists, I learned something today that wasn't down to @Treble for a change.

 

[brb]

I love the way everyone mentions the Malice each time a convo starts, I swear these left wing fookers are buying it and actually reading it.

Anyway...footie.

 

[remembercolinlee]

Weren't it Tebbitt that said get on your bike. We have bike lanes now.

Yep...had a cricket test too...only a sad **** would support the England team from 88-90 ish...they were dogshit.
It was quite hard to tell which was tebbit and which was the spitting image puppet tbh

 

[Sucky]

Yes I know, you had at least three pages of using uber when I searched.

My point being that you chose Uber over a London Cabbie, the former having the technology, albeit Cabbies have the knowledge the latter being better imho, but youngsters chose the cheaper, which has the ease of technology, that being an app on their phone, so you don't need to call a cab office.

Youd be surprised about black cabbies so called "knowledge" these days.

Most ive used in recent years use a sat nav and or need directions.

And yeh ease of getting an uber over hoping a black cab drives past you is ano brainer.

Knowing how much the fare will be beforehand is also a massive no brainer.

You can clock up a nice fare just sitting in traffic using a black cab, and London has nothing but fukin traffic

 

[haslam]

I'm bored with you now.

That's ok, I'm not really here to entertain

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

I remember people on here saying train drivers weren't going on strike and it wasn't about them. I like the way you quickly move on from train drivers, to other roles - I certainly don't remember anyone saying driving a train was 'easy'?

Maybe as you are so well informed, you could tell us exactly what a train driver does do in his cab, apart from look out the windscreen, their hours and their pay and let us be judge whether it's a fair wage and whether the job is in fact easy, compared to other jobs?

My view has always been once you give in to one strike, one union, you encourage more, and that's exactly what has happened.

Is there any chance I can use pictures and diagrams, as relaying 18 months worth of training training is going to be one long chat without them?