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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Commachio, Jan 11, 2017.

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    No problem, you just generally come out of nowhere and go against the grain. You done a similar thing with M'Vila.

    All cool though, enjoy your night x
     
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    It's a game of opinions, you're quite correct!
    However, I reiterate.. Moyes did well at 1 club, okay at another and bummed out at his last 2
    Big Sam has done well everywhere he has been?
     
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    Its ok , I think Moyes is the best bet out there for us, Ferguson rated him more than Sam, lads who criticise him achieve nothing. We need to get behind him.
     
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    Newcastle Sack Blackburn Sack WHU Sack…. I'm weird me <sorry>
     
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    100% marra.... I'm not one of the mindless who boo'd at the final whistle last weekend <doh>
    He currently has my backing :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Yes, but left them in better positions than when he joined??
    3 'massive' clubs all with ideas of grandeur me thinks !!
     
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    I don't know anybody who has turned on him yet?

    Been frustrated with him at times, yeah. Everybody is behind him though as far as I can see.
     
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    If I was given the choice tomorrow whether I would want Sam or Moyes taking us to the end of the season I'd take Big Sam in a heartbeat.

    Moyes has turned the corner somewhat, and has been unlucky with injuries, but there's plenty that still doesn't sit right with me.
     
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    Yep... You forgot Sacked by England
    100% win record
    I'm weird too it seems <laugh>
     
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    Off to kip lads, don't mean to offend anyone I just think if notMoyes who else? Look who Hull and Swansea have turned to. He turned Preston around and did great at Everton. I think we're lucky to have him and he needs a chance KTF x
     
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    That's Newcastle for you, though. If they had of kept faith with Allardyce they would have kicked on and not been relegated.

    That's the mags for you, though.
     
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    Everybody is behind Moyes.

    Goodnight, sweet dreams x
     
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    Night marra
     
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    Can you name one single way in which Moyes can't be described as drab. Decent manager but drab fits him like a rubber glove.
     
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    I reckon he'd take drab as a compliment.
     
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    I think Dick Advocaat and Gus Poyet could also have been successful (by our standards) if conditions had been different during their time in charge.
     
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    Not sure about Poyet - he was far too one dimensional - couldn't change a game whatsoever and continued to try and get us to play the possession football short passing game with Liam Bridcutt as the play-maker.

    Advocaat maybe if he was 10 years younger but clearly just didn't have the fight left in him. Now gone to a tin pot league managing probably the best team in the division after saying he was finished managing.
     
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    I think criticising Poyet for being one dimensional is a bit of a red herring really. Most managers are wedded to one particular tactical system and only vary from that occasionally. His choice of Bridcutt wasn't a good one but arguably, given time and resources, he would have accepted that himself and brought in someone who could do that job at a tactical level. His approach wasn't any worse than Moyes is currently doing.
     
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    Paolo Di Canio could have been one of the greatest you've had if he had the right personnel. I'm not saying he needed Messi and Pogba, I'm saying he needed a group that were prepared to work as hard as he was. He'd have had to change one or two things to be successful, such as his media stuff, perhaps not throwing shade at his players so publicly.

    He was left with wasters, drunks and a kiddie fiddler, it's no surprise they didn't want to fight for him, when all they had to do was cry and a new manager would be along imminently to wipe their bums.
     
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    You're exactly right. Extremely professional and dedicated as a player, Di Canio. Took his fitness and training very seriously. He obviously expected the same from his players. Its a pity a few more of them didn't buy into his way of thinking. He gets a lot of criticism because he's an extreme character but his ideas and his intention were spot on.
     
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