Apparently, Gussie will let Fletcher go.........for £25m! http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...n-fletchers-sunderland-hull-transfer-2985425?
Nice one, mate. We're looking at options and there is something called consistency that we should look for; in the case of a striker you look for consistency in scoring goals, regardless of where they play. Graham has blown away any sniff of consistency, whereas Le Fondre displays it in style - the rest of his game is another discussion point, but a striker with goals is what we need. No one has said he is a world beater (that's McShane ); but I have always expected a striker to turn up and score goals - it's what they should do. Yours is an opinion, the same as mine; how about backing it up with a bit of depth?
Fez, Le Fondre really is ****e. Ok he popped up and got a few goals, so did Beckford at Everton, so did Danny Graham. None of those 3 are up to much at the minute. Even web he was scoring those goals for Readibg he still wasn't really getting starts because he wasn't good enough, he's still not a regular starter in the championship because he's not good enough. He doesn't offer enough to a team game at this level. You say look at his stats, but they can be twisted to show almost anything. I bet if you look a bit more in depth to the stats that scouts etc. will be bothered about like his heat maps, dribbles completed, challenges etc. you'd be left scratching your head at how those 12 goals came to be.
Fez I'm in your corner mate, I posted Le Fondre on the transfer thread and got a bit shot down with very little justification. We have decent wide men, tricky front men (especially when Aluko returns) and we have willing hold up forwards. What we don't have other than Fryatt is a natural goalscorer. Le Fondre is a quality finisher, he has scored some very big goals in the Premier League against some very good defences. To dismiss him out of hand is just churlish.
The thing everyone is overlooking about ALF is he turned us down before, refusing to even speak to us when at Rovveram cos he was so desperate to move south - so fook him. He had his chance and why should we Do A Liverpool and forgive and forget when a player takes the piss out of us.
He's just not good enough, Fryatt is similar and better. Billy Sharp is similar and better, do you want him? He's really quite ****, he doesn't offer anything but sniff around the box goal hanging. No point getting another average player in, we need to go for genuine quality.
Mr Hat, you miss the point entirely; compare their consistency, regardless of league. Everyone on this board with take an ugly, lucky, wrongly-given goal any day of the week, so I do find it strange that folk are so choosey how a striker scores; he might only be on for 15mins and be largely ineffectual except for 1 or 2 match winning goals, but what is it you want? The guy just taken over as manager at Cardiff made quite a career out of not getting starts and scoring goals. I would always see him (ALF) as one of a number of strikers to be used tactically - but that is pointless if they can't score goals and ours are proving shy in that department. There is one headline stat I look at for a striker and that is goal to appearance ratio, more-or-less regardless of what type of appearance it was - if it is predominantly from the bench and still better than 1 in 3 then that is fine by me, but I would also question what another coaching set-up might get out of the player. I have no idea what his assist record is. Your post seems to be concerned about his general contribution, but I would suggest that, should we find a natural, instinctive, Fox-in-the-box striker, we would be better served getting some of our midfield to up their contributions and stop going AWOL; although who would really give a **** if we defend well (we do, generally) AND score goals (we don't, generally). As for the post about him turning us down and we should ignore him (BCC), life moves on.
some of you will remember Andy Payton.. invisible in matches untiil bang.. goal! and now he's idolised.. so the point about scoring is important and we need to do it. Fryatt & Sagbo are also quality technicians but goals = points.
Because LFC would rather Suarez was playing for them than against them & if they really want to win the PL they need him. Full stop. period. Granted ALF isn't in this bracket but if you hunt a player and make it clear you want him then he'll be woo'ed.. these players are millionaires and are fickle but they need to feel wanted..
Just goes to show how different some people are. I don't care how good they are, if any player ever treated us the way Suarez has Liverpool I would never want to see them in our shirt again. For example I never forgave Stuart Green for what he did. It's like the name change thing again, some things are more important than success.
Other than message board rumours, I have never seen anything to support your claim that he turned us down. Have you got a link?
Of course I haven't got a link, it was never made public. Has anyone got a link for an official statement saying Taylor only took Green with him cos he was seeing his daughter? Theres lots we know in football that isnt formally announced. People asked for a link when i announced on this very board that Quinn didnt cost the 300k quoted and instead we paid on a game by game basis WELL ahead of the media knowing it. Why does everyone nowadays want a ****ing link? I also think I'm the only person who has posted this 'rumour'. Look at it another way, why would I make this up? At the time I was like a broken record saying ALF was clearly the real deal for Championship level and saying we should do everything to sign him from Rovveram. He was amazing week in week out for them and half the price of McLean.
So Fletcher is the Hull City AFC equvilant of Sunderland wanting Ronaldo? http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25604320? The Sunderland manager was quoted as qualifying that with the admission that any of his players would be available should he receive a bid of £25m-30m. "They didn't call me and they didn't make any offers, so it is speculation, rumours," the Uruguayan said, joking that he was similarly interested in Real Madrid's Cristiano Ronaldo. "It's easy. I am interested in Ronaldo. Apparently, he doesn't want to come to Sunderland - it's too cold. "We can say and talk and make opinions and go on TV and make it look incredible, that we want to buy this and that. "But do it and then we will talk about it."
