Steve Waggott?

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AllHellLetLoose said:
My view is this....

Reg knew that painful cuts were going to be made, he didn't want to be the one to have to do it to HIS club and to people he considered as friends rather than work colleagues. Reg then got in an 'outsider' (Steveo) to make the cuts required as he knew this would be unpopular! New owners came in and cost cutting was now lower on the agenda so 'Steve the knife' who, by doing the job asigned to him, had made few friends was expendable and the person who should of been responsible for keeping costs under control was promoted?

Promoting your Finance Director to Chief Executive always seemed a strange move to me?
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I pretty much have exactly the same theory, though Steve left 6 months before the takeover <ok>.

Any level of research during his tenure as chief executive will show negative news coming from Steve, and anything positive from the directors.
 
I think Down Deep Inside we knew Steve was being made the scapegoat for a lot of the things that were going wrong with the club at the time.
 
Captain Blackaddick said:
Super, can I ask how you know all this?
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Sure- Steve is a family friend, as were many employees at the club a few years back when my family did some business with the club and community trust.

You are always skeptical when you talk about afore mentioned things, but I think it's long enough since he's left, and only fair (even if it's 30-50 people), know that Steve did a hard, but especially under the circumstances, a good job also.
 
I've had a couple of glances at CL but didn't like it much. If I'd known it was such a hotbed of bile, half-truths and in-fighting I might have persevered with it!
 
SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious said:
I know you did AH- it was a rant in general.

FHB- it's because any cost cutting was also affecting some of the middle management who thought they were big wigs (which they thought they were above, and went on to forums to slander Steve's name). They knew their positions were safe, but god forbid luxuries of free booze, and having to pay for parking on match day are taken away from them.

It was a petty time- and Murray and Varney allowed Steve to become the scapegoat. The truth is, without him ad some others (as much as most disliked him, parky), the club wouldn't/couldn't have survived. Now, I'm not saying it was all Steve and these few individuals, but they were a large reason.

Sadly a few of the cretins remain.
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What a load of crap ! Varney left the Club and Waggott took over from him. Varney did not re-join the club until the takeover was complete and Waggott lost his job.
 
SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious said:
Sure- Steve is a family friend, as were many employees at the club a few years back when my family did some business with the club and community trust.

You are always skeptical when you talk about afore mentioned things, but I think it's long enough since he's left, and only fair (even if it's 30-50 people), know that Steve did a hard, but especially under the circumstances, a good job also.
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Thanks for that <ok>

I must admit I only ever thought of Steve Waggott as somehow culpable in our downfall (wasn't he the one Nick Gray always lampooned as walking around with his shirt tucked out?), based on very little evidence, so it's really interesting to get another perspective.
 
really interesting thread. thanks for the info super.

hired choppers common place in industry. always hated by the workforce but loved by the shareholders. someone`s gotta do it i guess

can someone more skilled at editing pics than i am please post wagott made up as george clooney in "up in the air" (he plays a corporate chopper)
 
It's strange Caly...but when a Company tries to sort out it's own mess then the person responsible for cutting (and reducing staff numbers) is hated by the staff....YET.... if a Company goes into Administration/Receivership the Administrator/Liquidator is often seen in a good light by staff as being somebody trying to save some of the jobs!
 
The Rifleman said:
What a load of crap ! Varney left the Club and Waggott took over from him. Varney did not re-join the club until the takeover was complete and Waggott lost his job.
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<laugh> Varney hand selected Steve when he knew the task in hand. Carry on reading and you will see me agree (my own opinion) with what AH summed up.

Also, Varney rejoined the club in 2009 (I believe in the boardroom). Wasn't this not too long after Steve had to make redundancies over the summer and long before the takeover?

Call it crap - I've given facts of what happened on certain issues, and the rest is MY own view of what happened:

There were people in the club who had it in for him and due to their unprofessional conduct (by taking it to the forums) the fans consensus of Steve was clearly distorted. I then think certain members of the board continued to push him in the same vein as their own incompetent jobs were no longer being scrutinised.
 
yes...and i also remember most of the vitriol dished out by vol au nick being due to steve`s appearance (dress, weight etc etc) which i found totally out of line and irrelvant.

if clive mendonca played at wemberleee eating cheeseburgers and wearing a tutu...wouldnt have led to criticisms....strange how the personal stuff gets trotted out.
 
Is there anything to suggest we do actually have 'mystery backers', and that its not just Slater and Jiminez providing funds?
 
Fascinating thread guys.

I feel uneasy not knowing who our backers are, whenever my mates up here ask I change topic/pull a funny face.
 
SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious said:
<laugh> Varney hand selected Steve when he knew the task in hand. Carry on reading and you will see me agree (my own opinion) with what AH summed up.

Also, Varney rejoined the club in 2009 (I believe in the boardroom). Wasn't this not too long after Steve had to make redundancies over the summer and long before the takeover?

Call it crap - I've given facts of what happened on certain issues, and the rest is MY own view of what happened:

There were people in the club who had it in for him and due to their unprofessional conduct (by taking it to the forums) the fans consensus of Steve was clearly distorted. I then think certain members of the board continued to push him in the same vein as their own incompetent jobs were no longer being scrutinised.
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Sorry mate, but Varney was not at the club when Waggott was there, apart from a two week handover period.Varney was involved with the Trust in 2009 but not the club. Waggott succeeded Varney as CEO. Varney only came back into the club itself once the takeover took place. I don't for one minute believe that Varney stitched Waggott up, far from it in fact. I'm sure the real truth will eventually come out. Waggott nice guy, but not up to the job.
 
Got any examples of how he wasn't up to the job?

Varney returned to charlton in late 2009 as a member of the board. Again, not long after all the bad news had been dealt with by Steve.

Steve hand selected Steve due to their professional relationship from Steve trust days. If he "wasn't up to it", does PV have to take the flack for that?

It's fine if you don't think he was stitched up. It's an opinion that I share with a few people.

But his treatment was disgusting- that is fact. I even remember when someone was even pathetic enough to bring up his journalist past and that he covered millwall- Boo, hiss. Sadly, people used that against him too...
 
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