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Steve Bruce

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Toonitus, Dec 13, 2020.

  1. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    Start all over again
     
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  2. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    Surely he has to go. After sleeping on it. Reading on Twitter even some of the SB believers are starting to turn on him.

    Has he done it deliberately last night? Plus is he totally thick?
    Q:what’s your thoughts on calls for you to resign?
    A:Look, your asking the wrong person on that!

    Steve you muppet, your the ONLY person who can answer that as only YOU can resign........wtf?
     
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  3. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    14 years in and unbelievably Ashley is somehow even worse. There's even less money, less direction, worse decisions, worse set-up (Shola on loans, ffs? And wtf does Steve Nickson actually do?), Charnley is utterly AWOL. The Bruce decision was bad at the time, the fact he's still here this morning is nothing short of dreadful. In absolute free fall, clueless, no passion, just nothing. And he (Mike) has seen this all before. Twice. And isn't acting.

    It has to be deliberate ignorance or obstinance, nobody worth £3bn can possibly be this stupid?
     
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  4. cronemeister

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    The simple fact that he's come out after that **** show last night and stated that he thinks we've had a decent start to the season save for the last month says it all for me!

    He needs to get his fat ****ing head out of his even fatter ****ing arse and wake up. We are an absolute ****ing shambles. We have decent players but they are ****ing suffocating under him. We cannot keep hold of the ball and when we haven't got it we don't work hard/quick/smart enough to get it back....but it comes back to the age old problem that when we do have it we do nothing with it. The odd foray forward into the final third and then we stop and it ends up back with our goalkeeper at the very best, at worst back at the oppositions feet!

    Playing higher up the pitch isn't going to suddenly make us a better team, it's just creating even bigger ****ing gaps between our goalkeeper and defenders and our defenders and midfield for the opposition to play into. He's ****ing clueless, he has no plan B and bruceball has well and truly been found out.

    I seriously think we'd do a better job having no ****ing manager at all than this clown. The players must know how ****ing bad things are and that they are being played out of position etc etc...pretty sure they could ****ing sort it out better than SB could....he simply has to go, no question.
     
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    Makes me angry. But as some have pointed out while we are outside of relegation there’s no apparent threat to his wealth.

    The fact that we are falling so fast towards it is surely alarming.

    Bruce has publicly said he won’t resign. Ashley has said his priority is the sale of the club.

    If results go against us after the next : games we will be in the relegation zone.

    Then the biggest gamble of Ashley’s reign begins.
     
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  6. Prince Isak (GG)

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    One person can fix it short term. Joey Barton.
     
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  7. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    It was garbage, then didn't the players hold a summit which improved things for a bit, but then we've just gone backwards - fast. I said as soon as we drew with Liverpool that would be what he'd do regardless of opposition.

    But we're ****ed because the MD doesn't care, he's just a noddy dog, he doesn't actually steer the club. And Ashley's rolling the dice on the takeover. Bruce will stand there in the firing line and will only be removed if Mike's sale is at risk. It may be that the buyers contact the club and ask about the alarming situation. Then he'll have to actually look at what's going on and possibly act. But he won't do anything of his own volition, which means we're sat with Bruce until it's a) too late, or b) there's no takeover. And either event is a disaster.

    Basically not a lot of good news this morning.
     
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  8. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I don't blame Ashley at all this season .. He set the club up for a sale that was to make nufc the richest club in world football and that was wrongfully denied and its really not his fault.

    The idea was the come in and Bruce was could be disposed of easily I'd imagine.

    The clubs in this situation because of masters and the premier league..
     
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  9. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Was anybody of note at that match? Anybody can see that team is in real, desperate trouble. I agree, I'd just ping Bruce out and wheel Barton in on a 6 month deal, he'd take it.
     
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  10. Roland Deschain

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    Absolute rot. Ashley could drop the asking price to something realistic, accept the £110m is entirely his fault so write it off and sell to dozens of buyers. He could have appointed a competent manager instead of Steve ****ing Bruce. He could've kept Rafa. He could be paying for commercial deals. He could allow the club to borrow more to secure players this window. There's a hundred and one things Mike "thundercunt" Ashley could have and can do, but he won't.

    Yes, the PL have acted potentially unlawfully and have a part to play in this, but to blame anyone but Ashley is daft.
     
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  11. Prince Isak (GG)

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    He would. And he would literally shake the players and identify who’s up for it and who isn’t.

    He would go 4-4-2 and play carrol and Wilson up top.

    Darlow-manq-Fernandez-Schar-(loan Jetto)
    Miggy-Hayden-Jonjo-Asm
    Wilson-carrol

    Sole aim to shift the ball wide and whip early crosses/play through the middle and support by asm and miggy.

    None of this tracking back crap. Just stick to positions and a simple game plan.
     
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  12. Mick O'Toon

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    Roy Keane wants to get back into management,Joey and Roy partnership,team wouldn't dare lose <laugh>
     
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  13. Prince Isak (GG)

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    What about the 13 years of neglect prior to his golden ticket being ripped away from him.

    Mate Ashley is the one to blame because what we currently have is because of him and only him.
     
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    ****inh hell imagine that combination.
     
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    So you're saying I'm wrong and he didn't agree a deal that would make nufc the richest club in the world and it wasn't a surprise when it didn't happen?

    I stand by my claim this season really isn't his fault...
     
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  16. Toonitus

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    That's a separate argument entirely and one I'd agree on, but this season we should have a new owner and new manager and £200 million of new players on that pitch and the only reason we haven't IS NOT Mike Mike ashley
     
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  17. Roland Deschain

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    I'd have Murphy right and Almiron left, to get crosses in. I'd leave ASM out for now until things are looking up. Otherwise, yes, I'd just go really simple to get points then worry about an identity next year. I'd actually keep Clark alongside Fernandez, Schar's not hot in a pair.

    My preference is 5-3-2, of course, as I think we need three in the middle, are doing **** all wide most of the time anyway and Wilson needs a partner.

    Darlow
    Manq - Schar - Fede - Clark - Jetro (loan)
    Jonjo - Hayden - Almiron
    Wilson - Carroll
     
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  18. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    Ok if the takeover had gone through when it should have pre season your right we wouldn’t be where we are now. But still he could have spent money and he could have replaced SB.

    The PL are responsible for the takeover not happening yes.

    BUT MA is responsible for everything else.
     
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    I just feel 5-3-2 gives to much space away down the flanks and the wing backs we have a crap.

    Old fashioned 4-4-2 for me with the crop of players . Good shout re Clark as he pops up with the odd goal aswell.

    I watched the Leeds cup exit match and that was a classic case of a team over complicating football. Crawley just played to their strengths and easily beat “godlike” bielsa.

    This is also a problem with modern football for me. You have the odd manager who is brilliant tactically. So others try to follow suit who are NOT brilliant tactically.

    Keep things simple and you stand a better chance.
     
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  20. Toonitus

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    Almiron didbt score for half the season and I was screaming he can only play left throughout while he was criticised for not scoring or getting assists... Bruce eventually moved him left around this time last season and he scored 6 in the second half of last season in all competitions... I thought thank god Bruce's finally realised, but oh no he didn't even see the connection and he's played him right all this season....

    All this season we've struggled for more than 30 % possesion and shots fur and against has been a landslide to the opposition, so when he moved on matty vs City, Liverpool and Leicester and we not only looked better but had 42% possession and 7 shots to 9 vs Leicester I thought oh great surely he's realised the reason and we well see the same 11 vs Sheff United, but no he didn't see the connection or even realise.


    The guys actually a moron
     
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