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Saintmagic

Saintmagic

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As the title says, here is the squad as it stands for next season (not included KWP out of contract, not sure if anyone else is as well).

Who stays
Who goes because they will go
Who goes because you want them to
Who do we loan out

GK
Ramsdale
McCarthy
Bazunu
Lumley

DEF
Bree
Larios
Sugawara
Manning
Welington
Taylor
Bednarek
ABK
THB
Stephens
Wood
Edwards

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option)
Lallana
Downes
Aribo
Fernandes
Smallbone
Matsuki
Fraser
Dibling
Sulemana
Charles
Edozie
Juan

ATT
Onuachu
Archer
Stewart
Armstrong
Ballard
Diaz

Total 35 players, which is part of the problem
 
Saintmagic said:
As the title says, here is the squad as it stands for next season (not included KWP out of contract, not sure if anyone else is as well).

Who stays
Who goes because they will go
Who goes because you want them to
Who do we loan out

GK
Ramsdale
McCarthy
Bazunu
Lumley

DEF
Bree
Larios
Sugawara
Manning
Welington
Taylor
Bednarek
ABK
THB
Stephens
Wood
Edwards

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option)
Lallana
Downes
Aribo
Fernandes
Smallbone
Matsuki
Fraser
Dibling
Sulemana
Charles
Edozie
Juan

ATT
Onuachu
Archer
Stewart
Armstrong
Ballard
Diaz

Total 35 players, which is part of the problem
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GK
Ramsdale - Go
McCarthy - Go*
Bazunu - Stay
Lumley - Stay*
*Not sure as depends on contract.

DEF
Bree - Stay
Larios - Go
Sugawara - Go
Manning - Stay
Welington - Stay
Taylor - Go
Bednarek - Stay
ABK - Go
THB - Go
Stephens - Stay
Wood - Stay
Edwards - Stay

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - Go
Lallana - Go
Downes - Stay
Aribo - Go
Fernandes - Go (sadly)
Smallbone - Stay
Matsuki - Go (Goztepe loan)
Fraser - Stay
Dibling - Go
Sulemana - Go
Charles - Stay
Edozie - Stay
Juan - Stay

ATT
Onuachu - Go
Archer - Go
Stewart - Stay
Armstrong - Stay
Ballard - Go (loan)
Diaz - Go

That is what I think, not hope. Massive rebuild on our hands.

THB & Sugawara are 50/50s - they'll both want out but not sure anyone will pay enough. The only one I really hope I'm wrong on is Fernandes - the rest can go so long as money is good.
 
And in terms of potential loans-out, it'll be relevant to consider who is out of contract in 2026. Because we're highly unlikely to loan out anyone who will be entering their final year:

McCarthy, Stephens, Bree, ABK, Taylor, Aribo, Smallbone, Fraser, Onuachu, Stewart. I think.
 
GK
Ramsdale - will leave, can't blame him
McCarthy - Sell if poss, Loan if not
Bazunu - Take to a car boot sale and leave him there. Loan if somebody wants him.
Lumley - Keep

DEF
Bree - keep
Larios - sell
Sugawara - sell
Manning - keep
Welington - keep
Taylor - keep
Bednarek - sell
ABK - will leave. Good riddance
THB - thinks he's too good for us. He isn't. Cash in
Stephens - take out back and shoot.
Wood - keep if cheap
Edwards - ditto

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - I'd gamble
Lallana - keep on coaching staff possibly. Career over as a player
Downes - sell
Aribo - keep
Fernandes - lock him up, don't let him out for the summer, tell other clubs his leg fell off
Smallbone - sell
Matsuki - keep
Fraser - sell if anybody will buy, not the worst player if we do keep him
Dibling - He's off, £50m would be lovely
Sulemana - I'd keep him, if he'd stay
Charles - keep
Edozie - sell
Juan - sell

ATT
Onuachu - sell
Archer - loan
Stewart - melt him down for glue
Armstrong - will score goals, I'd keep him
Ballard - loan
Diaz - forgotten who he is

I think I'd keep a dozen, sell the valuable players and the wannaways and loan out any dross we can't sell
 
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GK
Ramsdale go
McCarthy stay
Bazunu go
Lumley go

DEF
Bree stay
Larios go
Sugawara go
Manning go
Welington stay
Taylor stay
Bednarek stay
ABK go
THB
Stephens stay
Wood stay
Edwards stay

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option) go
Lallana go
Downes stay
Aribo stay
Fernandes go :emoticon-0106-cryin
Smallbone go
Matsuki who?!
Fraser go
Dibling stay
Sulemana go
Charles stay
Edozie stay
Juan go

ATT
Onuachu go
Archer stay
Stewart go
Armstrong stay
Ballard ?
Diaz go
 
GK
Ramsdale - Go (£30mill to any of the top 8 clubs who want him)
McCarthy - Stay
Bazunu - Stay

DEF
Bree - Stay
Larios - Loan
Sugawara - Go (£10mill Napoli)
Manning - Stay
Welington - Stay
Taylor - Go
Bednarek - Go (£10mill Roma)
ABK - Go (could be for free all I care, but expect around £10mill)
THB - Stay (controversial, I know.. but can’t see anyone paying what we’d want for him - suspect £30mill & I think with his contract he might have to suck it up and play a key role next season)
Stephens - Stay (please only as a backup)
Wood - Stay
Edwards - Stay (starting 11 next year, has to be!)

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - Go (No chance he’s here with a 15mill price tag, surely?)
Lallana - Stay (as youth coach)
Downes - Stay
Aribo - Go (£8million I think he will find suitors abroad & play European football again, albeit for a smaller team)
Fernandes - Stay (probs heart over head here, but we have to keep him. Best player we’ve bought since Tadic or Mane for me!)
Smallbone - Stay
Matsuki - Loan
Fraser - Stay (backup)
Dibling - Go (£60million I think he’ll end up going to either Newcastle, Spurs, Villa or Man Utd)
Sulemana - Go (£12million, again to someone in Italy)
Charles - Stay (key player for us next season)
Edozie - Stay (can see him stepping up next year once back)
Juan - Loan

ATT
Onuachu - Go (think we’ll get around £8million from someone in Turkey, Belgium or Holland)
Archer - Stay
Stewart - Stay
Armstrong - Stay (undoubtedly quality in Championship)
Ballard - Stay (depends on how he performs in pre season but could end up as Loan)
Diaz - Go (£10million to Sheff Utd as agreed in his loan)

Wanted to include the prices I think we’ll get for them too. Around £150 million worth of sales here, not including what we got for Amo either! This + parachute payments should mean the club shouldn’t have to sell the likes of THB & Fernandes if they see them as players that can compete in the Prem next time around and have a decent amount of money to spend on next players too!
 
Who I realistically think will stay, and who I want to stay are 2 very seperate propescts <laugh><laugh>

I'll think realistically about what could happen (rather than what I want to happen)

GK
Ramsdale - Go
McCarthy - Stay
Bazunu - Stay
Lumley - Stay

DEF
Bree - Stay
Larios - Go
Sugawara - Go
Manning - Stay
Welington - Stay
Taylor - Go
Bednarek - Go
ABK - Go
THB - Go
Stephens - Stay
Wood - Stay
Edwards - Stay

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - Go
Lallana - Go
Downes - Go
Aribo - Go
Fernandes - Go
Smallbone - Stay
Matsuki - Go
Fraser - Stay
Dibling - Go
Sulemanab- Go
Charles - Stay
Edozie - Stay
Juan - Go

ATT
Onuachu - Go
Archer - Go
Stewart - Stay
Armstrong - Stay
Ballard - Go
Diaz - Go

That's quite the turnover, maybe I'm being unrealistic <laugh>

Ballard i expect will sadly get another loan.
Larios, Matsuki and Juan's agents are already putting rumours out about leaving.
 
This is what I think will happen, not what I want to happen

GK
Ramsdale - Go
McCarthy - Stay
Bazunu - Stay
Lumley - Go

DEF
Bree - Stay
Larios - Stay
Sugawara - Go
Manning - Stay
Welington - Stay
Taylor - Stay
Bednarek - Stay
ABK - Go
THB - Go
Stephens - Stay
Wood - Stay
Edwards - Stay

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - Go
Lallana - Go
Downes - Stay
Aribo - Stay
Fernandes - Go
Smallbone - Stay
Matsuki - Go
Fraser - Stay
Dibling - Go
Sulemana - Go
Charles - Stay
Edozie - Stay
Juan - Loan

ATT
Onuachu - Go
Archer - Go
Stewart - Stay
Armstrong - Go
Ballard - Loan
Diaz - Go

Feel like we will be unable to get rid of a few of the players we want to due to their wages/clubs who would realistically want them, but they will be fine as options in the Champ anyway. Looking at that list now I’ve done it the defence looks good enough for a playoff push minimum but we will have to hope we can sign a few who are going to score
 
This is what I think will happen (apart from ABK)

GK
Ramsdale GO
McCarthy STAY
Bazunu STAY
Lumley STAY

DEF
Bree STAY
Larios GO
Sugawara STAY
Manning STAY
Welington STAY
Taylor GO
Bednarek STAY
ABK FO
THB STAY
Stephens STAY
Wood GO
Edwards STAY

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option) GO
Lallana STAY
Downes STAY
Aribo STAY
Fernandes GO
Smallbone STAY
Matsuki STAY
Fraser GO
Dibling GO
Sulemana GO
Charles STAY
Edozie STAY
Juan GO

ATT
Onuachu GO
Archer STAY
Stewart WHO?
Armstrong STAY
Ballard STAY (loan possibly)
Diaz GO
 
I'll be a bit different and say who I want to stay or go realistically.

Go is sold unless stated otherwise.

GK
Ramsdale Go
McCarthy Stay
Bazunu Go
Lumley Stay

DEF
Bree Stay
Larios Go (loan?)
Sugawara Go
Manning Stay
Welington Stay
Taylor Go
Bednarek Go
ABK Go
THB Stay
Stephens Go
Wood Stay
Edwards Stay

MID
Gronbaek (exercise buy option) Go (end of loan)
Lallana (join coaching staff?)
Downes Stay
Aribo Go
Fernandes Stay
Smallbone Stay
Matsuki Go (loan?)
Fraser Go
Dibling Go
Sulemana Go
Charles Stay
Edozie Stay
Juan Go

ATT
Onuachu Stay
Archer Stay
Stewart (dunno???)
Armstrong Stay
Ballard Go (loan?)
Diaz Go
 
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