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  1. Saintmagic

    Saintmagic Well-Known Member

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    As the title says, here is the squad as it stands for next season (not included KWP out of contract, not sure if anyone else is as well).

    Who stays
    Who goes because they will go
    Who goes because you want them to
    Who do we loan out

    GK
    Ramsdale
    McCarthy
    Bazunu
    Lumley

    DEF
    Bree
    Larios
    Sugawara
    Manning
    Welington
    Taylor
    Bednarek
    ABK
    THB
    Stephens
    Wood
    Edwards

    MID
    Gronbaek (exercise buy option)
    Lallana
    Downes
    Aribo
    Fernandes
    Smallbone
    Matsuki
    Fraser
    Dibling
    Sulemana
    Charles
    Edozie
    Juan

    ATT
    Onuachu
    Archer
    Stewart
    Armstrong
    Ballard
    Diaz

    Total 35 players, which is part of the problem
     
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  2. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member
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    Lumley and Lallana are the other two out of contract
     
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  3. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

    Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) Well-Known Member

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    GK
    Ramsdale - Go
    McCarthy - Go*
    Bazunu - Stay
    Lumley - Stay*
    *Not sure as depends on contract.

    DEF
    Bree - Stay
    Larios - Go
    Sugawara - Go
    Manning - Stay
    Welington - Stay
    Taylor - Go
    Bednarek - Stay
    ABK - Go
    THB - Go
    Stephens - Stay
    Wood - Stay
    Edwards - Stay

    MID
    Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - Go
    Lallana - Go
    Downes - Stay
    Aribo - Go
    Fernandes - Go (sadly)
    Smallbone - Stay
    Matsuki - Go (Goztepe loan)
    Fraser - Stay
    Dibling - Go
    Sulemana - Go
    Charles - Stay
    Edozie - Stay
    Juan - Stay

    ATT
    Onuachu - Go
    Archer - Go
    Stewart - Stay
    Armstrong - Stay
    Ballard - Go (loan)
    Diaz - Go

    That is what I think, not hope. Massive rebuild on our hands.

    THB & Sugawara are 50/50s - they'll both want out but not sure anyone will pay enough. The only one I really hope I'm wrong on is Fernandes - the rest can go so long as money is good.
     
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  4. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member
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    And in terms of potential loans-out, it'll be relevant to consider who is out of contract in 2026. Because we're highly unlikely to loan out anyone who will be entering their final year:

    McCarthy, Stephens, Bree, ABK, Taylor, Aribo, Smallbone, Fraser, Onuachu, Stewart. I think.
     
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  5. Schrodinger's Cat

    Schrodinger's Cat Well-Known Member

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    GK
    Ramsdale - will leave, can't blame him
    McCarthy - Sell if poss, Loan if not
    Bazunu - Take to a car boot sale and leave him there. Loan if somebody wants him.
    Lumley - Keep

    DEF
    Bree - keep
    Larios - sell
    Sugawara - sell
    Manning - keep
    Welington - keep
    Taylor - keep
    Bednarek - sell
    ABK - will leave. Good riddance
    THB - thinks he's too good for us. He isn't. Cash in
    Stephens - take out back and shoot.
    Wood - keep if cheap
    Edwards - ditto

    MID
    Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - I'd gamble
    Lallana - keep on coaching staff possibly. Career over as a player
    Downes - sell
    Aribo - keep
    Fernandes - lock him up, don't let him out for the summer, tell other clubs his leg fell off
    Smallbone - sell
    Matsuki - keep
    Fraser - sell if anybody will buy, not the worst player if we do keep him
    Dibling - He's off, £50m would be lovely
    Sulemana - I'd keep him, if he'd stay
    Charles - keep
    Edozie - sell
    Juan - sell

    ATT
    Onuachu - sell
    Archer - loan
    Stewart - melt him down for glue
    Armstrong - will score goals, I'd keep him
    Ballard - loan
    Diaz - forgotten who he is

    I think I'd keep a dozen, sell the valuable players and the wannaways and loan out any dross we can't sell
     
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  7. Lovelocum

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    GK
    Ramsdale go
    McCarthy stay
    Bazunu go
    Lumley go

    DEF
    Bree stay
    Larios go
    Sugawara go
    Manning go
    Welington stay
    Taylor stay
    Bednarek stay
    ABK go
    THB
    Stephens stay
    Wood stay
    Edwards stay

    MID
    Gronbaek (exercise buy option) go
    Lallana go
    Downes stay
    Aribo stay
    Fernandes go :emoticon-0106-cryin
    Smallbone go
    Matsuki who?!
    Fraser go
    Dibling stay
    Sulemana go
    Charles stay
    Edozie stay
    Juan go

    ATT
    Onuachu go
    Archer stay
    Stewart go
    Armstrong stay
    Ballard ?
    Diaz go
     
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  8. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

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    I just have one wish: please please please can we not start next season with Bazunu in goal. He’s dreadful.
     
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  9. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    Yeah don't care anymore. Until we get a decent manager it will just be the same story every summer.
     
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  10. Brizzletiss

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    GK
    Ramsdale - Go (£30mill to any of the top 8 clubs who want him)
    McCarthy - Stay
    Bazunu - Stay

    DEF
    Bree - Stay
    Larios - Loan
    Sugawara - Go (£10mill Napoli)
    Manning - Stay
    Welington - Stay
    Taylor - Go
    Bednarek - Go (£10mill Roma)
    ABK - Go (could be for free all I care, but expect around £10mill)
    THB - Stay (controversial, I know.. but can’t see anyone paying what we’d want for him - suspect £30mill & I think with his contract he might have to suck it up and play a key role next season)
    Stephens - Stay (please only as a backup)
    Wood - Stay
    Edwards - Stay (starting 11 next year, has to be!)

    MID
    Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - Go (No chance he’s here with a 15mill price tag, surely?)
    Lallana - Stay (as youth coach)
    Downes - Stay
    Aribo - Go (£8million I think he will find suitors abroad & play European football again, albeit for a smaller team)
    Fernandes - Stay (probs heart over head here, but we have to keep him. Best player we’ve bought since Tadic or Mane for me!)
    Smallbone - Stay
    Matsuki - Loan
    Fraser - Stay (backup)
    Dibling - Go (£60million I think he’ll end up going to either Newcastle, Spurs, Villa or Man Utd)
    Sulemana - Go (£12million, again to someone in Italy)
    Charles - Stay (key player for us next season)
    Edozie - Stay (can see him stepping up next year once back)
    Juan - Loan

    ATT
    Onuachu - Go (think we’ll get around £8million from someone in Turkey, Belgium or Holland)
    Archer - Stay
    Stewart - Stay
    Armstrong - Stay (undoubtedly quality in Championship)
    Ballard - Stay (depends on how he performs in pre season but could end up as Loan)
    Diaz - Go (£10million to Sheff Utd as agreed in his loan)

    Wanted to include the prices I think we’ll get for them too. Around £150 million worth of sales here, not including what we got for Amo either! This + parachute payments should mean the club shouldn’t have to sell the likes of THB & Fernandes if they see them as players that can compete in the Prem next time around and have a decent amount of money to spend on next players too!
     
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  11. Saints Fan4Life

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    Who I realistically think will stay, and who I want to stay are 2 very seperate propescts <laugh><laugh>

    I'll think realistically about what could happen (rather than what I want to happen)

    GK
    Ramsdale - Go
    McCarthy - Stay
    Bazunu - Stay
    Lumley - Stay

    DEF
    Bree - Stay
    Larios - Go
    Sugawara - Go
    Manning - Stay
    Welington - Stay
    Taylor - Go
    Bednarek - Go
    ABK - Go
    THB - Go
    Stephens - Stay
    Wood - Stay
    Edwards - Stay

    MID
    Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - Go
    Lallana - Go
    Downes - Go
    Aribo - Go
    Fernandes - Go
    Smallbone - Stay
    Matsuki - Go
    Fraser - Stay
    Dibling - Go
    Sulemanab- Go
    Charles - Stay
    Edozie - Stay
    Juan - Go

    ATT
    Onuachu - Go
    Archer - Go
    Stewart - Stay
    Armstrong - Stay
    Ballard - Go
    Diaz - Go

    That's quite the turnover, maybe I'm being unrealistic <laugh>

    Ballard i expect will sadly get another loan.
    Larios, Matsuki and Juan's agents are already putting rumours out about leaving.
     
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  12. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Let them all go, on a free if necessary. Wipe the slate clean, this lot are tarnished.
     
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  13. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Pram Toys Thrown
     
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  14. Saintmagic

    Saintmagic Well-Known Member

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    This is what I think will happen, not what I want to happen

    GK
    Ramsdale - Go
    McCarthy - Stay
    Bazunu - Stay
    Lumley - Go

    DEF
    Bree - Stay
    Larios - Stay
    Sugawara - Go
    Manning - Stay
    Welington - Stay
    Taylor - Stay
    Bednarek - Stay
    ABK - Go
    THB - Go
    Stephens - Stay
    Wood - Stay
    Edwards - Stay

    MID
    Gronbaek (exercise buy option) - Go
    Lallana - Go
    Downes - Stay
    Aribo - Stay
    Fernandes - Go
    Smallbone - Stay
    Matsuki - Go
    Fraser - Stay
    Dibling - Go
    Sulemana - Go
    Charles - Stay
    Edozie - Stay
    Juan - Loan

    ATT
    Onuachu - Go
    Archer - Go
    Stewart - Stay
    Armstrong - Go
    Ballard - Loan
    Diaz - Go

    Feel like we will be unable to get rid of a few of the players we want to due to their wages/clubs who would realistically want them, but they will be fine as options in the Champ anyway. Looking at that list now I’ve done it the defence looks good enough for a playoff push minimum but we will have to hope we can sign a few who are going to score
     
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  15. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    Wrong thread
     
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  16. NNSaint

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    This is what I think will happen (apart from ABK)

    GK
    Ramsdale GO
    McCarthy STAY
    Bazunu STAY
    Lumley STAY

    DEF
    Bree STAY
    Larios GO
    Sugawara STAY
    Manning STAY
    Welington STAY
    Taylor GO
    Bednarek STAY
    ABK FO
    THB STAY
    Stephens STAY
    Wood GO
    Edwards STAY

    MID
    Gronbaek (exercise buy option) GO
    Lallana STAY
    Downes STAY
    Aribo STAY
    Fernandes GO
    Smallbone STAY
    Matsuki STAY
    Fraser GO
    Dibling GO
    Sulemana GO
    Charles STAY
    Edozie STAY
    Juan GO

    ATT
    Onuachu GO
    Archer STAY
    Stewart WHO?
    Armstrong STAY
    Ballard STAY (loan possibly)
    Diaz GO
     
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  17. SaintMarv

    SaintMarv Well-Known Member

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    But do you want them to stay, loan or go?
     
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  18. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    I'm with Archers. Screw the lot of them and let them go.
     
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  19. Saints_Alive

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    I'll be a bit different and say who I want to stay or go realistically.

    Go is sold unless stated otherwise.

    GK
    Ramsdale Go
    McCarthy Stay
    Bazunu Go
    Lumley Stay

    DEF
    Bree Stay
    Larios Go (loan?)
    Sugawara Go
    Manning Stay
    Welington Stay
    Taylor Go
    Bednarek Go
    ABK Go
    THB Stay
    Stephens Go
    Wood Stay
    Edwards Stay

    MID
    Gronbaek (exercise buy option) Go (end of loan)
    Lallana (join coaching staff?)
    Downes Stay
    Aribo Go
    Fernandes Stay
    Smallbone Stay
    Matsuki Go (loan?)
    Fraser Go
    Dibling Go
    Sulemana Go
    Charles Stay
    Edozie Stay
    Juan Go

    ATT
    Onuachu Stay
    Archer Stay
    Stewart (dunno???)
    Armstrong Stay
    Ballard Go (loan?)
    Diaz Go
     
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  20. Saintkitagain

    Saintkitagain Well-Known Member

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    Retro?
    Go!
    Apollo?
    Go!
    Guidance?
    Go!
    Control?
    Go!
    TELCOM?
    Go!
    GNC?
    Go!
    ECOM?
    Go!
    Surgeon?
    Go!
     
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