There is no conclusion vote for or against the name change. The OSC represents the roughly same number of City supporters as CTWD. There current ballot, after the threats of Assem Allam to walk away is likely to show a bigger vote in favour of the name change then previously, maybe even a small majority. The OSC will then have to deal with the fall out from that vote. But that won't be enough to convince the FA that there is widespread support for the name change. I haven't joined the OSC and I don't see CTWD as being in competition with them. We have one primary objective which is to campaign against the name change. Our submission is in and we are preparing for our meeting with the FA. We have met with the Premier League and made our case to them, which will hopefully inform their own submission. We are getting support from the wider football family with submissions from a number of Supporters Trusts. The petition and postcards are going well and I'm sure our case to the FA will make a professional and substantial case for saying No To Hull Tigers. The FA will make their own minds up but it won't revolve about how many did or didn't vote. It is more likely to revolve around, we asked for a ballot of season ticket holders and it didn't happen. In the longer term, whilst Assem Allam still owns the club, I see the possibility of the fans, through a relaunched Tigers Co-op, obtaining part ownership. Getting there isn't going to be easy but it isn't impossible.
I'm not sure the FA see the postcards as paper to get rid of. I'm not hung up on polls. Once the OSC refused to ballot supporters at the Chelsea match we have no idea what the majority of City fans think and neither do the FA. They will make their mind up on the evidence presented to them. The petition and the postcards will show them how strong the anti-feeling is. When they sit down to vote they will raise their hands in what they think is best for football in general as represented by the governing body, ie the FA.
I see absolutely no chance of that happening while AA, his family, or any other owner who comes in and puts 50/100 million down, owns the club.
Obi, I don't think that the OSC had much of a choice as their original poll was criticised for not being representative as so few responded. Odd that isn't it. One poll is representative and another isn't. Sorry it's not you, Obi, you make fair points and I really don't have any beef with you. The OSC has problems and I don't know much about it as I really am on the outside looking in. I wouldn't want to be its chair at this moment in time, as it looks to be in a fight that it was never prepared for. As for the poll at the Chelsea game, lets face it, there would have been too many issues. The use of Official could be misinterpreted. The number of people wanting to vote, could have issues that needed to be planned. It would not have been as easy to do as it sounds. The timing of the poll works both ways, a poll in the week after the Liverpool game, would that have been better timing? Or after the 14m transfers? Isn't this a such a big issue that supporters should not be so fickle about it? Hull City Supporters Trust it certainly isn't going to be easy is it? What happens if Assem Allam says he will donate 20% of shares to Hull Tigers Supporters Trust?
I just don't see the point in arguing about the polls. The milk has been split and cannot be put back. The FA will make its decision on what's already happened. I don't see the need to score points against the OSC. Whatever the result of their current poll they are not going to win many friends and are likely to face more criticism than thanks. We are coming to an historic moment in the club's history. Where we'll be is anyone's guess, but with a bit of goodwill on all sides we could have a fan owned club, that breaks even and is pushing for Europe. Sounds easy but as its in our DNA it won't be.
As I have said right from the start the OSC are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I have spent many hours in recent years on the subject of supporter ownership and know how hard if not impossible it will be.
Seems to me that the person rattling on about polls is Omega. Is it just me, or are they irrelevant now? Surely, the campaign has highlighted the fact that lots of City fans - the numbers or percentages don't really matter - are opposed to the plan, along with lots of other people in the wider football community, including fans of other clubs, players, former players, journalists, TV experts and the like. Isn't it now just a case of the FA making a decision?
In my opinion, the only real relevance of the polls is the lack of one from the club. It demonstrates a lack of fan consultation and hints at their expected outcome.
The FA knows that fans are a fickle lot that hate change. I hope that they realise that Hull City will be put up for sale but, as we don't own our own ground, it will be a tough sell, without AA we will go to the wall, we wont do a Plymouth, we will end up doing a Wimbledon. We could end up moving out of Hull, we could get merged with Scumthorpe! or merged with Lincoln City! They may want our PL standing, and offer for us to play at their ground. or even worse ****ing L**ds could buy us! imagine that! Elland Road as our home ground? *shudder* all because you fear a name change!
Logic always wins. Logic says if Assem Allam sells to someone with a lot of money to spend on a Premier League football club we could be even more successful. Logic also asks if the two people quoted in that BBC article you like have been commissioned by the club to support Assem Allam's application.
Lots of "could" in there. How about we remain Hull City, we could finish in top half of the league, AA could be approached by a multi billionaire from Asia, he could be drawn to the club by the passionate supporters and the proud history, he could buy the club and invest millions, he could speak amicably with Hull City Council, he could bring the club back into the Hull community. All because we didn't change our name.
