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  1. TBD

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    In 1984 the political ideolody was called Ingsoc English Socialism. Clearly extremes of either wing lead to nothing good!
     
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    There are no true examples of communism because its impossible. Any ideology which depends on the good will of people will always fail. Whether you explain it from a religous or atheist perspective human nature is most definitly flawed.
     
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    Also this thread is flipping awsome love a bit of politics!
     
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    No,I've never been to Cuba,but I'd like to go there one day.The natives aren't frightened to talk to foreigners,where did you get that idea from?
     
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    There is plenty of music in Cuba,they only promote music that the states deems as being good,as in it doesn't disrespect the state.I don't know about art and literature though...
     
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    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Go there. It's absolutely true about the locals, I can assure you. They're a frightened and oppressed people. Whilst they have eradicated the worst of the poverty you'll find on some islands, Cuba is the only place in the Carribean where people don't smile.
     
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    There might be a few people in Kingston, Jamaica who'd have something to say about that.
     
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    What about the people who work in the tourism industry?They'll be happy to see foreigners.
     
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    Careful! We'll be moving on to "original sin " next!<laugh>

    You're right about impossible ideologies. The problem is that they don't allow for human frailties, and are so sure of their own perfection that they are viciously intolerant of those who have failed to "see the light".
     
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    All ideologies are theoretical ideal situations. Hence we can argue that no-one has ever achieved anything like Communism so we cannot say that it failed. This is why I do not understand why people say that we must stick so carefully to our current economic policy or we must stimulate growth; just like free market and Keynsian models they are nothing more than models and therefore we should not use them as blue print as how to run an economy or society. You wouldn't wear a coat because the Met Offices forecast said it would rain tomorrow if there is strong sun outside.
     
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    Yes, but 'falling short' of utopian communism has killed more people in the 20th century than even Fascism. Imperfect free market models may cause a certain misery, but far short of collectivism, gulags/concentration/death camps, and final solutions.
     
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