Spurs should look and learn from a club like Chelsea. If they had some champions like Terry Cole Lampard they may win something sometime
I'd say CFC & Spurs are pretty evenly balanced at the moment - similar sort of progress in the cups, although we got further in the CL this year (sorry couldn't resist!), and in the PL we are pretty even. My upsides at the moment are that we have played a heck of a lot of games this season, have had the (usual?) drag of collateral damage going on which has manifested in the 12th man becoming the man sent off - shame on some of our 'fans' and the fact that imo we have some unleashed potential whereas the current Spurs team are pretty much as good as they are going to get. That could change in the transfer window though both with who they buy and if they can hang on to Bale. Same with us although I don't think we are in the 'christ he may leave' scenario but definitely we need to buy! Tbh we are a shadow of our recent former selves and are very much in transition - at least I hope we are. By many teams standards we have done very well so far this season both on the pitch and on the marketing exposure front and how we have done this with a tom-tit striker and another (Ba) who is at this moment less than stellar is amazing. Bring on next season and I hope it includes CL footy! Feeling a bit left out on Tues and Weds nights!
Was meant to like your post not unlike. Big difference between us and them is level of expectation and mentality but credit to AVB he's trying to change that. I admire the way he has spoken about Spurs in contrast to Redknapp who always billed them as underdogs and inferior to Chelsea/Arsenal. That can rub off on the players and evidently did under Redknapp
See, it is arrogant remarks like yours that put a lot of neutrals off your fans. AVB would not have (and it's "have" not "of") "won" the CL simply because the likes of Lampard, John "iron my hood, bitch" Terry, and Drogba wouldn't have let him. RDM wasn't a manager, he was the players' best mate. The team won it in spite of any manager, not because of RDM. Your players never gave AVB a chance, because he was paid to be Mad Dog's bully-boy, a role that he clearly wasn't suited to. Trouble is, Coco isn't suited to it either, but that doesn't mean that Mad Dog won't end up getting what he wants. I truly believe that CFC is now the club that no top manager wants to manage. Are you really proud of that fact?
If you want to correct people on their english then I suggest you get it right yourself. On another Chelsea thread I read after this one you said "Can I just say, that I'd love it if Sparky became your next manager Seriously, you'd be better of with Mick McCarthy. " Ermm should this not read 'off' not 'of'
You clearly didn't watch any Chelsea games last season. AVB persisted with a 4-3-3 when it was clear to every man and his dog he didn't have the personnel to play that formation. Even the worst pundits around like Jamie Redknapp eluded to the fact that 4-3-3 with s high line would play directly into the hands of the explosive counter attacking 3-4-3 of Napoli. That match was the biggest example of tactical ineptitude I have ever seen at this level of top flight football. The players were at fault as much as AVB, but then AVB was a man that deemed Drogba surplus to requirements, same with Lampard, he also wanted to replace Cech and Ashley Cole. Those players were the mist integral part of our CL win. It was actually AVB's treatment of them and RDM's willingness to give them a chance that helped the team win the CL, it galvanised the squad. RDM reverting to the 4-2-3-1 gave us more structure and less exposed to the counter attacks that had flaunted our CL campaign. AVB is doing well granted, but he's at a club where the level of expectation and media scrutiny is far lower. At Chelsea, failure to win the PL and/or CL is a bad season and ultimately - failure. So long as the money is there, managers will always manage Chelsea. The media have used Guardiola going to Bayern as a stick to beat Chelsea and City with but would he have gone to any other English club? Apparently not. I look forward to seeing your anti-AVB rants in the event Spurs miss out on the CL, HIAG. They were great reading after the 4-2 and 5-2 to defeats to Chelsea and Arsenal last year
Since when were Brown and Neville established internationals? They haven't been in the England set up for ages and even then were fringe players most of the time. They were hardly the most important players in United C.L win either as opposed to the players I highlighted such as Lampard, Cech, Cole etc. I think you've (deliberately) missed the point. I'm hardly saying Turnball is a world beater cos he has a C.L medal. The point being that the top players have done it at the top level. That means winning trophies, competing at a high level in top competition like the C.L and World Cups, setting records etc etc. David Luiz and Gary Cahill for instance are C.L winners (both played in the 120 minutes in Munich where we only conceded once). What have Kaboul, Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen etc done to come close to that?!? A few good performances in the P.L doesn't change the fact that real top class is shown in the most high pressure and high profile situations, not a Monday night at Upton Park.
Hallmark of a great team is winning trophies...period. Being top of a mini league between the London clubs is something to brag about I guess, but also shows that Spurs still have a small time mentality. Chelsea (and even Arsenal to an extent) are more concerned with challenging for trophies then just bettering local rivals.
Brown and Neville have 82 England caps between them. I'd say that's fairly established. They've dropped out in recent years, but the comparison still stands. You pointed out most of your team, so to then point to someone that didn't play is rather disingenuous. Like Phil Neville, Wes Brown and others have done. Djimi Traore's a Champions League winner and he played 120 minutes in Liverpool's final, too.
Mikel and Kalou won it last season, with the former playing the whole game and the latter playing 84 minutes of it. The best players don't necessarily win the trophies every season. It's easy to find examples of it.
Come on, you are brighter than this! PNP is clearly pointing out that holding these top medals doesn't necessarily make you a top player.
It is one of the hallmarks; perhaps even the most important hallmark, but it certainly isn't the only hallmark, as you seem to imply. Birmingham beat AFC in the Carling Cup last season, and were promptly relegated from the EPL; no right-minded football fan would argue that Birmingham City is a "greater" club than Arsenal, not even me, who utterly despises AFC. Yet the Birmingham City squad have won more trophies than the Arsenal squad. Yes, it does, and quite rightly so, too, in my opinion. Spurs fall way behind the kinds of money spent, than CFC and AFC, so much so that we shouldn't even get a sniff of top 4. Yet, here we are, currently the best team in London, and the 3rd best team in the entire league. Of course that's something to brag about! You need to have put up with desert of years that us Spurs fans have had to endure, playing lovely football but getting absolutely no where with it, to fully and properly appreciate how proud we now feel. It's meaningless to you CFC fans, because you have become desensitized by Mad Dog's billions. Come on! Such lowly and petty insults are beneath you. Sorry, but that is complete and utter bollocks! And you know it is!
One of my best mates has been a CFC fan all of his 55 years. I've sat in the directors' box with him at Chelsea. We discuss CFC (and Spurs) on a regular and frequent basis. Not that that is going to affect your argument, because it suits your purpose to assume that I know nothing about your club.
