I think my English is relatively good but when I have been there in the past I have struggled with the accent so maybe you are right there haha
Saddened that this has happened to a group of your supporters yet again!! Hope all your fans return safe and sound after the match. Perhaps after the violence you have met so far this season, a trip to Anfield or the Bridge or St James's in a later round would be a welcome relief for you! I wouldn't fancy a trip to St Petersburg either, given that elements of their support want a "purely" white team.
Can only agree with this The sooner UEFA realise that anti semitism needs to be kicked out of football as well as racism the better. It's getrting to the stage where Spurs fans won't travel which will be a scandal.
Just in on Sky news. This police DID NOT act quickly, took ages to arrive, despite bar owner warning them of this possibility TWO days ago. French police not too bothered about a few English getting a kicking!
This link between Spurs and Jews goes back some way. Clearly there are large numbers of jews in North London and Alan Sugar used to be connected to the club, but I'm curious to know, from your experience, roughly what percentage of Spurs fans are Jewish. I wouldn't expect it to be any more than 5%. It could be 100% for all I care - those vile racists in Rome and Lyon will, hopefully, burn in hell.
Chelsea and Arsenal probably have more Jewish fans than Spurs. The Jewish thing with Spurs is over exaggerated, it's mainly due to Spurs being the North London club and large Orthodox Jewish Communities in nearby areas like Golders Green, Stamford Brook, Hampstead etc. People put two and two together and all of a sudden Spurs were a Jewish club. Anti-semitism was rife in those days (still is now to be honest) and Chelsea, Arsenal and West Ham taunted Spurs with the "Yid" tag for years, word then got round the country and many others used it to taunt them with and then it became used as a badge of honour against those taunts (rightly or wrongly). Europe are about 20 years behind us and build their "firms" on British culture/ideology so they watch the films, footage, documentaries and it catches on. I remember when we played Lazio a few years ago and they had an England flag displayed with the Headhunter emblem.
To be honest mate I don't think any of us can truly tell you the percentage of Jewish Spurs fans there are. For me personally, I actually know a bunch of about 15 fans that are truly Jewish but all in all, probably impossible to tell unless a mass survey gets done I suppose.
Think you mean Stamford Hill DL, but not splitting hairs... Agree with your final paragraph re: social 'development'.......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ch-Fans-claim-attack-anti-Semitic-motive.html Did history not give anyone a clue!...'The Butcher of Lyon' http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/nazioccupation/barbie.html
Cheers for those answers. District - what you say is what I suspected. There are a fairly large number of Spurs fans in my home town of Bedford, and from my knowledge of them, they're mostly Catholics of Irish descent. The "Danny Blanchflower effect", perhaps. Last paragraph is all too true. Thankfully, for a variety of reasons, we barely send large numbers of hooligans abroad to follow our club sides - but clearly our out-dated reputation (created in the 70s/80s) precedes us, and it's become almost routine for largely blameless fans of English clubs to be assaulted by gangs of well-organized thugs on the continent. If these foreign hooligans had tried it on with some of the Spurs fans who used to travel abroad in previous decades they'd have had more than a match.
Nice to see Lyon issue a quick response condemning the actions of these thugs completely and apologising for any harm done. They've distanced themselves from the idiots responsible, but without trying to shift the blame to another set of fans or other group entirely. Take note Lazio and your ridiculous attempt to pick out 'foreigners', which just confirmed what everyone else believed about your club.
Generally speaking, hooliganism is a thing of the past in Western Europe. It does happen but in far smaller numbers and isn't well reported by the press. What we've had recently, is far right groups attacking Spurs via political means. The Jews have a long history of being persecuted which stretches way back, even before the Holocaust.
Don't know if this is true but you can imagine the German authorities take a fairly hard line on any anti-semitism given the country's recent history.
As you've brought up the attitiude of German supporters, check out St Pauli fans. They are the very antithesis of the right-wing ultras seen at Lazio and elsewhere on the continent.
They are indeed - left wing loonies who get together with like minded teams across Europe to glorify acts of terrorism against the state.
The closed minds are still here though lapping up everything the media feeds them. There's no lateral thinking; it's all one sided; all emotional and that doesn't surprise me.
