Spurlock's Ramadan diary

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First world problems <wah>

Can't have a drink when I want...even though there is a feast waiting for me in the evening

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Tel said:
I've seen it mate, I was visiting a friend who lived in Sharjah just outside of Dubai, I think it was around 2006 Ramadan was in October time. Manual labourers working throwing buildings up left, right and centre. Every now and then an ambulance would arrive and scrape a Somalian up of the pavement that had fallen 12 floors to his dehydrated death.

We took a boat up the creek in Dubai too, the 'captain' looked like a raisin, I swear at one point I thought he had died on us.
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Bit of a generalisation and a huge assumption to make and say he fell because of dehydration, how do you even know he was fasting for instance? Did you speak to his friends or the doctors?

I think you will find the working conditions are extremely bad out there and labourers die on a regular basis nothing to do with Ramadan or not, as for the captain again your based assumption is because of Ramadan, how do you know he isn't just thin...silly assertion to make that one month of abstention during the daylight makes you like a raisin....I better write a book on that as a new slimming method and hopefully be a millionaire soon...:emoticon-0126-nerd:
 
Spurlock said:
The fact that you need to embrace a struggle now and again as a humbling experience. It is a fundamental element for survival...however we can drink at the end of the day. If it was a case of you might die, you are not obliged to Fast.
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No of course, if you're ill then you defo shouldn't be fasting.

We all believe in something different I guess, for me there's no way I'd do a water fast, given that I don't drink it for 8 hours a day as it is.

I appreciate the sentiment mind, obviously some will be humbled by it, and I hope you fast well dude.
 
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Tel said:
Without wanting to ridicule a religious belief, no higher being, or Imam should advocate the suspension of drinking water for any period of time, especially when a large section of that demographic live in unbearably hot conditions.

The food thing is easy, I have done intermittent fasting before for long periods, way longer than Ramadan, with 8 hour windows closing to 5 hour windows, but I'd have to have water, to keep my brain working through the day.
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Not being funny but you are entitled to your opinion, but you should actually know more about it before making judgements. Imam's don't make the rules, people can survive and have done so fasting in hot climates for over thousands years....


So you have done the food fasting longer Ramadan? how long would that be and how many hours per day and what do you refrain from then?
 
Tel said:
No of course, if you're ill then you defo shouldn't be fasting.

We all believe in something different I guess, for me there's no way I'd do a water fast, given that I don't drink it for 8 hours a day as it is.

I appreciate the sentiment mind, obviously some will be humbled by it, and I hope you fast well dude.
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Cheers bro...it's good to learn about one another and life in general, I for one enjoy it.
 
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Highburyal said:
Bit of a generalisation and a huge assumption to make and say he fell because of dehydration, how do you even know he was fasting for instance? Did you speak to his friends or the doctors?

I think you will find the working conditions are extremely bad out there and labourers die on a regular basis nothing to do with Ramadan or not, as for the captain again your based assumption is because of Ramadan, how do you know he isn't just thin...silly assertion to make that one month of abstention during the daylight makes you like a raisin....I better write a book on that as a new slimming method and hopefully be a millionaire soon...:emoticon-0126-nerd:
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Do you seriously want me to answer this ridiculous post... How have you concluded that I am working on assumptions out of interest, are you assuming you know me again for some reason?

Sorry to break it to you, but your book's been written already, intermittent fasting done safely with water has been integral in many athlete's training routines for decades.
 
Highburyal said:
Not being funny but you are entitled to your opinion, but you should actually know more about it before making judgements. Imam's don't make the rules, people can survive and have done so fasting in hot climates for over thousands years....


So you have done the food fasting longer Ramadan? how long would that be and how many hours per day and what do you refrain from then?
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I've done intermittent fasting for 4 months and 3 months, my consumption windows were 2pm to 7pm during 5 hour windows and 12pm to 7:30pm during 8 hour windows (my own choice to cut it back 30 mins). The first 3 days are incredibly hard but it produces some of the best results for cutting and lean gains I've had. It's supposed to be more of a lifestyle than a diet plan but I've never managed to go that far, due to holidays.

I never suggested Imam's make the rules, I suggested it's advocated by them, you should know the difference.
 
Tel said:
Do you seriously want me to answer this ridiculous post... How have you concluded that I am working on assumptions out of interest, are you assuming you know me again for some reason? .
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I don't need to know you to safely say you were asserting your views on assumptions actually, if you want to say otherwise then back it up...

Tel said:
Sorry to break it to you, but your book's been written already, intermittent fasting done safely with water has been integral in many athlete's training routines for decades.
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Again if you had a clue you would know that the Qur'an first and foremost is oral tradition and preserved oral and written form...so what if you believe its been done safely for decades by athletes, there are athletes who fast without a problem as well so what's your point? This is older and regardless of your or anyone's views people will follow it through, unless there life threatening situations which Islam caters for as well.
 
Highburyal said:
How did you come up with the percentage? I would say 0% there, because we are not doing it to prove to anyone anything but for our maker...
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0% <laugh>

Let's have some reality here please. 75% is too high, but you can't just say 0%!
 
Highburyal said:
I don't need to know you to safely say you were asserting your views on assumptions actually, if you want to say otherwise then back it up...


Again if you had a clue you would know that the Qur'an first and foremost is oral tradition and preserved oral and written form...so what if you believe its been done safely for decades by athletes, there are athletes who fast without a problem as well so what's your point? This is older and regardless of your or anyone's views people will follow it through, unless there life threatening situations which Islam caters for as well.
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Sorry Al, I've just concluded that you're an utter paranoid numpty, so there's just no point bothering to have a conversation about nutrition with somebody like you.

Clearly you're an expert at peering into the minds of other people, ascertaining how their information was obtained and scrutinising it until it becomes worthless chod.
 
Tel said:
I've done intermittent fasting for 4 months and 3 months, my consumption windows were 2pm to 7pm during 5 hour windows and 12pm to 7:30pm during 8 hour windows (my own choice to cut it back 30 mins). The first 3 days are incredibly hard but it produces some of the best results for cutting and lean gains I've had. It's supposed to be more of a lifestyle than a diet plan but I've never managed to go that far, due to holidays. .
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If you believe that's good for you then try complete abstention and see the difference.
Tel said:
I never suggested Imam's make the rules, I suggested it's advocated by them, you should know the difference.
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Fair point you didn't suggest they make they rules but they advocate it, but the thing is they have to they are no position to make rulings according to their choice or belief, unless Islam allows that in that matter and even then they have to look at Islamic rulings and base it on those..
 
Tel said:
Sorry Al, I've just concluded that you're an utter paranoid numpty, so there's just no point bothering to have a conversation about nutrition with somebody like you.

Clearly you're an expert at peering into the minds of other people, ascertaining how their information was obtained and scrutinising it until it becomes worthless chod.
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Paranoid because I said you base it on assumptions...."assumptions is the mother of all **** ups" but do carry on assuming...
 
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