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  1. Spurlock

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    <laugh>

    You guise are brutal
     
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    Commachio Rambo 2020

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    @brb and his yank political ****e.

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    Commachio Rambo 2020

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    honestly man, just **** off.
     
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    PINKIE Hilda Ogden of not606

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    That won’t bother Fosse in the slightest :bandit:
     
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  6. brb

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    Only just seen this <laugh>
     
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    It's got a trigger safety, but no manual safety that you have to flick separately to allow the trigger to be pulled.
    Basically it means that it won't go off on it's own if something catches on the trigger, but it's not like older models that require that extra step.
    It's that thing that the arrow's pointing at:
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    Tbph mate, I'm not understanding any of this mentality with cops. It appears the gun is the go to weapon in every situation, a bit like giving our cops the stun gun, they seem to use it freely now as if it's a toy.

    There is no proportionality - why do cops need to draw a weapon for someone that is escaping, a weapon should be used as a last resort to save your own life or that of another, drawing a weapon to stop an escapee is just mental fooked up thinking.

    What happened to shooting people in the leg, or in the foot or in an arm, why are the shots always fatal. Crazy fooked up world.
     
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    PINKIE Hilda Ogden of not606

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    The cop who shot that lad, thought he was going to turn a gun on him. They panicked and shot first.

    Until the US sort out their gun ownership laws, this **** is going to keep on happening.
     
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    That's total bolloxs, if someone was reaching for a gun, you would use a gun in response, the cop claimed her intention was to use the tazer and it was an accidental discharge, which confirms she and the other cops knew he wasn't reaching for a gun.
     
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    They shouldn't be shooting at all, unless it's to kill the person they're shooting at. That's one of the basic rules of firearm safety.
    I think this bloke was a genuine mistake and she meant to taser him, judging by the video.
    That would've been proportionate, as he was trying to escape and the officers were struggling with him in and around his vehicle.
    Massive ****up to kill him, of course. Having two weapons that you deploy in a similar manner is just very risky.

    The problem with the US cops is the prevalence of firearms in their society and the need to be armed, combined with a lack of training.
    They have to treat every traffic stop as potentially lethal and it's totally toxic and dangerous.
    If some nutjob can go off on one and kill 8 people at a FedEx depot because he's having a bad day, then that infiltrates the psyche of the police.
    They're at war with the populace.
     
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    PINKIE Hilda Ogden of not606

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    Fair assessment. I haven't really followed the story. That was the response I heard one US police chief give on Radio 4

    The whole thing is ****ed up when a 13 year old lad gets blasted to death in the chest.
     
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    I heard a bit the other day that they shouldn't have even been arresting him. He was wanted on a warrant as I understood, but the cops should have only issued a ticket to that affect, as agreed with the state whatever rules it is. How much truth there is in that I don't know, but cops out there are turning the place into the wild west.

    I'd probably say different about the Chicago shooting, as a firearm was discharged and another found discarded near-by, but again why is it always a fatal shot.
     
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    I think you're talking about different shootings, which says something in itself when there are so many controversial police shootings over there.
    Adam Toledo v Daunte Wright.
     
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    Yeah that's the Chicago one, I have some sympathy with the cops in that one, but as I said above, why are they doing shoot to kill.
     
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    If a police officer shoots, then it should always be an attempt at a fatal shot.
    They should only do it if there's a threat to life, either their own or someone else's, so it's far too risky to try to hit an arm or wound the person.
    They're not snipers or sharpshooters and they won't pull that **** off.
     
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    Hard one to call on the 13 year old kid then. Because the cops were called to a gun being discharged, then you've got a cop running down a side road, not knowing what to expect. From what I saw the kid had his hands in the air, but i'm not the one facing the prospect of an armed kid, so who knows how I would react, it depends how well I've been trained in those situations suppose. I've always said if you play with firearms then expect the worst, now a mum is crying but maybe her son should have kept better friends.
     
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    PINKIE Hilda Ogden of not606

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    Or the US should amend their Constitution and sort the issue of ridiculously easy access to guns
     
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    Yup, but we know that won't happen. I think they actually arrested the older person that was with the kid. I guess the one they arrested was probably the one discharging the gun, but that's just an assumption of what I think was probably going on. I expect the 13 year old kid was looking up to him and it cost him his life.
     
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    It looks like he has the gun in his hand and turns, but dumps it while he's bring his arm round to put his hands up.
    Split second decision from the cop, who knows that there's someone turning to face him with a firearm.
    Can't really blame him for that one, to be honest.
     
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