Sorry to deflect the thread back onto the gay issue again, but I feel I have to point some truths out to Duncan. Duncan, it was you who introduced sexuality into this discussion, not some politically correct liberal cabal. Everyone was discussing the defeat at Southampton and you chose to start ranting about rainbow armbands and how children are being taught about 'bum sex'. I am a gay man, but I have never felt any need to make this public on this website because it is totally irrelevant. Or it was, before you made it relevant. You could simply have said that you don't think sport should get involved with social issues and left it at that, and broadly speaking I would have agreed with you. But you went on for several paragraphs about gays, including a couple of gratuitous references to anal sex. If anyone has an issue about gay sex, Duncan, it is you. I am not asking you to 'celebrate' my sexuality (to use your word from an earlier post). But I won't take crap either. I am an old man and I have spent my life fighting people like you and your unthinking homophobia, and I have learned that homophobes are the people with the problem, not gays. There are people in the world who are different from you. They may be black not white, female not male, French not English, Muslim or atheist not Christian, gay not straight. Accept that in a deep sense and not just come out with this crap about you're not prejudiced because we are all prejudiced because we all tend to live in our own bubble. To my mind, respecting the difference between ourselves and other people is something that separates an adult from a child. Now let's all back to discussing the Yellows and how the hell we are going to avoid relegation.