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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by The Serious Guy, May 20, 2012.

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  1. valleyswan

    valleyswan Active Member

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    You seem to forget that the Swans left a lot of creditors when they entered a CVA 10 years ago, it happens quite a lot. I had a business go as well, I sold my house to repay debts rather than going bankrupt. Its only in the last few years I have managed to buy another.
     
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  2. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    You? Copy and paste? Never.<whistle>
     
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  3. nicewelshlumberjack

    nicewelshlumberjack Well-Known Member

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    God! so much drivel - now I remember why I don't miss 606 - and for any of the childish tw*ts who've been posting - My father can fight your father so there!
     
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  4. gendrosjack

    gendrosjack New Member

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    After Martinez jumped ship Sousa steadied it, tightened us up where needed and took us a place further up the league, whats not to like? Sure we did not perform in front of goal but that was not the managers fault he was not on the pitch, the players who did under perform like Kuqi and Pantado did not lack effort and worked hard for the Swans and deserve praise for their efforts. These people are Swans one and all and played their part in our rise. Jenkins and the board deserve nothing but the greatest respect for the way they have handled our club and guided us to this great position we are in. Who would have said 11th in the league and virtually debt free?, the way the club is run is an example to all. It must really rankle with the naysayers that Jenkins and the board have achieved so much success the 'Swansea Way' because it shows how little they know of football and business, every success rubs their noses in the mire and demonstrates their lack of understanding. Just remember folks its the empty vessels who make most noise, here's to Jenkins and the board, here's to our player's past and present and here's to another season in the best league in the world with our beloved Swans, Cheers!
    Win, lose or draw, STID!
     
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    Terror ball Well-Known Member

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    Gendros, you're making sense to me.
     
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  6. Terror ball

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    Alright, maybe "fantastic" is overdoing it but it was very good football, and far more sophisticated than the stuff being played by the rest of the Championship. Just couldn't score the goals...isn't that about the personnel though? Seem to remember us dominating possession and controlling games but missing our chances and not having the guile to create as many as we should have.

    Under Sousa I thought we looked like a Serie A team, which is impressive given our budget.
    Wasn't just defending that improved, I think we got much better at winning the ball back in midfield and up front, cleverer movement. This stuff is standing us in good stead today.
     
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  7. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    "Sure we did not perform in front of goal but that was not the managers fault"

    I disagree, at least in part. Sousa insisted on our striker (Pintado I think?) having a principal role in defending rather than getting forward. Whereas we do that to an extent now Sousa took it to extremes imo. Someone once said "Sousa emasculated our forward line" and that is spot on.

    Look, we owe a debt of gratitude to Sousa in that he sorted out our defence and set the foundations for what we have now. Rodgers was able to fine tune what he left behind for sure. But by god I'm glad we don't play bore-fest football any more.

    As for you nicewelshlumberjack: It's all about opinions. If you have one about footie or the Swans, share it. But coming on here once a year just to throw insults around is pretty pathetic.
     
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  8. Crackerjack

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    Opinions are opinions , whether once a year or once a day .... lots talk about things not regarding football on occasion , lumber should be able to announce his grievances like anyone else . Nice to here from him no matter what he says IMO ... hope you enjoyed your Swan season as it progressed lumber
     
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  9. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha, it's Jenkins & the board now! Dross by name, and dross my nature.................<laugh>


    What a simpleton? Of course it was the managers fault, he decided all season to play Pantstado, and kept trundle on the bench, who had scored 5 goals in less that 20 minutes of game time, as apposed to Pantsdado's 2 goals all season! ..............<ok>

    Clearly this numpty knows very little about football, and seems to me to be a JENKINS SYCOPHANTIC ACOLYTE, do us a favour and crawl back under your rock son! ......................
    <cheers>
     
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  10. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    The comments of Daiswan and Dragon absolutly tie in with what i was told regarding Sousa, Dobbie was loaned out to balance the books and sousa had support from many members of the board, there was a shift in policy when Brenden came in and needed backing, he got it because people on the board didnt want to fail a third manager who was going for promotion, we have alot to thank Sousa for !!
     
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  11. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    So as your favourite pastime is telling me that I'm abusive to other posters, any comments on Phills' post? I also disagree with some of Gendros's post but come on, there's no need for that.

    I thought Cardiff had the monopoly on double standards.

    Just asking like. :)
     
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  12. valleyswan

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    think Dragon is out of order, I don't agree with all that Gendros has written, but calling his comments dross, and him a simpleton is not right. He is entitled to his opinion like you Dragon!

    And Norway Dobbie was loaned out yes, but whether it was to balance the books I am not sure, think it was more about personalities, and we still lost Leon. The board backing Brendan is because they can work with him, if the board was split with Sousa then he was not the right man for the job, they must work in concert not against each other.
     
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  13. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    Dragon probably is having an off day, KJ is far more consistant in his attack of fellow posters which takes place daily or straight after i post something ..<laugh> <ok>

    Valley, there were issues with dobbie and the school of thought was to put him out on loan to save money as he wasnt going to be used much, the money saved on his wages was supposed to help with loan signings <ok>
     
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  14. valleyswan

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    But that doesn't make sense, if it was to save money for new loan signings, why not keep him as he is our player and we don't have to pay another club for one of their players, then pay the wages on top. I still think it was a personality clash with Sousa and him.
     
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  15. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    As i said there were issues with Dobbie, i dont know if it was a personality clash or not. The thought was better to have money coming in and try and use it rather than have dobbie sitting in the stands getting paid for doing nothing.Maybe they wanted to off set Trundles wages ??

    Anyway, all in the past now . Sousa did good and the record books will show it .
     
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  16. DragonPhilljack

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    What are you whinging for now? I thought I had been very pleasant to gendros, considering his drivel, anyway your a fine one talking, lost count on all the nasty comments you've given Dai and Norway, oh and Musty too! Pot & kettle springs to mind........... <cheers>
     
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  17. Crackerjack

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    9 out of 10 posts gendros makes ( if he's made that many ) are sticking up for Swan players taking a hit , even if it's from Swan fans themselves .... He's about the only poster that can make me feel bad about bad mouthing Sousa , but not really bad . Nothing wrong with sticking up for Swan players & managers Phil .... better than running them down .
     
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  18. gendrosjack

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    Guys its quite apparent where the dross comes from on this board,most of it from the mouths of Phil and Dai, assisted by a few others. Its prob the reason why few fans come on and post. With each passing season the drivel they post is exposed as nonsense, malicious, nasty, nonsense, sure they are entitled to their opinion but opinions are like arseholes every one has one. There is nothing surer than facts. Since Huw has taken control we have constantly risen through the leagues and our playing performances have grown in stature. The quality of player we are able to secure has also risen season on season. Sousa played his part in our rise, placed another cog in the Swans style machine. Constantly the style we play amazes us as fans and also pundits from around the globe. A large amount of the credit has to go to the chairman as he sets the standard, plots the course and steers the ship. We are blessed having Huw as chairman, make no mistake, he has made Swansea City a role model for smaller clubs to emulate and put the passing game back on the map. Sycophantic Jenkins Acolyte I may be Phil but I know **** from sugar and you look brown and steamy to me!
    Win, lose or draw STID
     
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  19. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Your like a poisoned dwarf gendros, with about as much intellect as your typical bluetit, and as for your facts, nothing stacks up, this 606 board is growing every week, with new posters being added daily, so you point of few fans is another rubbish comment from you. Huw Jenkins has not and never will take control of Swansea City, he is the Chairman of a board of directors, something you clearly can't understand, and it is that board of directors that make the decisions, not Huw Jenkins, he is simply the mouth piece for the collective body, now do yourself a favour and sit down before you make an even bigger fool of yourself, and plug that arsehole, you've been spouting out of!.................. <ok>
     
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    Why do people insist Sousa wasnt backed and Rodgers was... Correct me if im wrong but in the championship, didnt we spend more under Sousa than we did Rodgers?
    Also the lack of goals was due to the style of play... Not sure if you remember but the likes of Dyer was hardly allowed to stray over the half way line, and Pintado was constantly back chasing shadows. It was only through Pratleys ability to run forever that he managed top goalscorer with 7 goals.
     
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