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Sorry Tv Pundits - stop ignoring the elephant in the room

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by sweet fa, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. TigersFan

    TigersFan Well-Known Member

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    experienced! at what? :p
     
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  2. shwan

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    you sure about the digit is in right spot .. he look more 5.5 <laugh>
     
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  3. sweet fa

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    sean:

    If that was a red, then every over head kick that is ever played is also a red.

    Heck, other players regularly put their foot as high as Nani's was to control a ball. The key distinction is if they are aware of the presence of, and attempting to infringe, an opponent. Nani was clearly, clearly, neither. No amount of 'lets not kid ourselves' rubbish from the same Roy Keane who blamed Shay Given for Henry's Handball goal against Ireland should tell you otherwise. It was an awful, awful, awful decision, which ruined a fantastic game of football.
     
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  4. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    Think it was a clear red. Any doubt for me is removed when you notice Nani makes a second movement towards I'llblowher with his foot (after he gets the ball and kicks him, he pushes with that leg as he bounces off the player) rather than withdrawing it or letting it fall naturally away. I think the severity is supported by Nani immediately writhing around in pain for no reason other than to escape punishment. See Steven Taylor chapter 2 on believability, mate! You've got to make us want to feel you've been shot by a sniper!

    Even if we live in the land of make-believe, where Nani isn't that sort of player, Sir Alex is a typical pensioner and needs a stair-lift to get to the pitch, and the second angles of the TV aren't available or don't show karate action, it's a red technically and deservedly. Colo should have seen red vs Ba also for the same type of infringement.

    What Man Utd fans should and rightly will complain about is;

    1. Ramos fouling Evra (I think it?) near the end in the area. Clear penalty. Previous instances involving Ramos were touch and go as well.
    2. Lopez punching Vidic in the face after missing the ball. How is that not a red, but a nudge during a set-piece is a foul on the GK?!?!

    Both teams had hand-ball shouts, Real's more prominent and worthy (Rafael preventing a goal), but I think a handled ball should equal a foul anyway regardless of intent, which would have given Man Utd 2.

    Best player on the night? Toss up between Rafael and Giggs, with Evra not far behind. Both the former players were superb. Ronaldo was pretty terrible and ineffective all game, as was Ozil and most of their attacking players in truth.

    Overall thoughts? Poor first half, good second half for the neutral, and decent atmosphere for once at Old Trafford. Shame the last British side is out, but you're hardly the world's unluckiest club. Good luck next year <ok>
     
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  5. seanDCFC

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    I would rock your world :emoticon-0116-evilg
     
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  6. TigersFan

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    I dunno, DCFC how old are you? Fancy a date sexy.
     
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  7. seanDCFC

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    No!
     
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  8. seanDCFC

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    Only if you want to get destroyed
     
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  9. TigersFan

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    With a cricket bat.
     
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  10. shwan

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    man just ignore him .. he is just an immature chelsea fan
     
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  11. seanDCFC

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    Na, cricket is for woofties.
     
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  12. seanDCFC

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    You don't know me at all, I'm like mature cheese.
     
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  13. TigersFan

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    Can i eat you?
     
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  14. seanDCFC

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    You could try but seanDCFC is a hard guy to catch.
     
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  15. TigersFan

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    like a fly.
     
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  16. seanDCFC

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  17. Bergkampspilot

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    Unlucky united. Welcome to the biased world of uefa where your relationships with EPL refs means sweet F.A was looking like a great game before the sending off. Congrats on the EPL title by the way.
     
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  18. sweet fa

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    Only just seen this sorry Varier:

    Possibly controversial. but to me this should be the reason humans referee football and not robots. A robot might, using your reference to rules, have deemed that worthy of a sending off.

    However I would expect a competent human to factor in the following: This is a knockout game of football between 2 of the biggest teams in the world, playing in arguably the biggest club competition in the world. The match is finely balanced. You should be pretty damn sure before sending somebody off. Surely, SURELY, with the smallest amount of common sense, intent should come into it>

    I ask again - would ronaldo have been sent off for the same thing at the bernabeu? If you really think so, you havent been watching english teams in europe over the last few years...
     
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  19. TigersFan

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    My dog swallowed a fly n his eyes went all weird.
     
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  20. seanDCFC

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    Does he have googly eyes?
     
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