Some depressing honesty

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C'mon chaps and chappesses. You all know how much i twist and moan. It's cos I demand the absolute best for - and, more importantly - from my club. We have all bought tickets, badges, scarves and programmes. We've paid for bovril, chewie and "peanuts, 3p a bag"! There must be something we can do. Here's a question that should be my own thread - if you had 5 mins with Quinn, what would you say?

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Can we have a passionate debate about the club we all love without ..

name calling,
assuming I am right and all you are wrong
I know everything and you know nothing.
based on facts.

We can, good, then let me give a very honest outline of me and why I think like I do.

Some will say I lack ambition, I accept what is thrown at me by the club, I bury my head in the sand.

I would say I try to be realist, I accept there is a lot I can do nothing about, I accept I support Sunderland and all the downside it brings.

When I see us on a bad run, missing out on a top 6 place, selling out best young players it all leaves me with a feeling of, oh well, we are Sunderland. When I see us going after Gibson, Oshea and Brown I am happy, when I read that 2 may not want to come, I’m not surprised.

I think Sunderland is one of the biggest and best clubs in the EPL, I know that most outside of Sunderland don’t. It pains me to say it but I know the football world see Newcastle to be a bigger and more attractive option than us.

If we put on a good show against the top teams and finish around 10th I will be happy, I don’t expect to be a top 6 club, I’m sure this is depressing reading, I don’t feel cock a hoop writing it.

Maybe after all these years of following my team I have given up, just expect what we get and am just happy to enjoy a good day out and some good banter with you lot, maybe I’m like the club, to ****ing old to change.

Its for all these reasons that I can accept Bruce, a man who IMHO cares like I do and is doing his best. Its why I love Bardsley and want him in my team, he gives his all. Maybe its why I love Gyan but cant get used to him playing for us and half expect him and Sess to leave.

Its why I hate the Bruce out shouts because he is keeping us in the prem and I’m scared of risking that.

Its why I hope the younger fans can get us out of my mindset, cant see it in my lifetime but you never know.

Sorry if I have depressed you all.

Good post Syd and I almost heard the Hovis tune played out in the background? Lol

I guess the frustration comes from the heart where I truly believe we should be a top 6 club- given our fan base is remarkable to be so big after decades of failure and the current set up which is the most settled in my lifetime - but the head keeps telling me not be daft and that the club probably will never amount to anything but what we are.

Bit part players in a big league.

We all desire the best players and want to see a wining team but then so do Stoke, Bolton, Noocarsel and Villa fans and we are probably all much of the same.

I have followed the lads since the 74/75 season and never missed a season in between. I too have witnessed the 3rd division campaign, the sorry Milk Cup debacle and the heartbreaking FA Cup Final in 92. 2 Wembley play off defeats and too many relegation's to discuss here.

If I am totally honest with myself, I know deep down we wont ever change the decades of failure but the conflict between heart and mind causes much irritation in this lads thinking and sometimes leads me to over reaction and aggressive debating (verbal not physical mind these days). Most times I come to my senses after a day or two and feel a bit of a daft twat but I am passionate about the club has everyone here is and it just hurts to see something I love so much not make the best of itself.

Its like having a son or daughter that has all the potential to make something of themselves, but just seeing them piss it all up the wall at every turn. It hurts and it causes much pain and in defending them we do and say the wrong things at times.

I never want to fall out with any SAFC fan and the fact that we have all at some point done so and then shook hands later shows why we love to be supporters of this magnificent football club called SAFC.

Haway the Lads
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Well said cest, we all disagree, sometimes with wods spoken we regret but I hope we never fall out, pleny of arseholes about for that.

I find myself in a strange frame of mind, excited, depressed, happy and sad, all at the same time.I think my underlying fear is failure, I think this window and the coming season are the biggest we have faced for a long, long time. If the club get it wrong its not Bruce and his future that concerns me ts the club sliding way back.
 
Well said cest, we all disagree, sometimes with wods spoken we regret but I hope we never fall out, pleny of arseholes about for that.

I find myself in a strange frame of mind, excited, depressed, happy and sad, all at the same time.I think my underlying fear is failure, I think this window and the coming season are the biggest we have faced for a long, long time. If the club get it wrong its not Bruce and his future that concerns me ts the club sliding way back.

And on that note mate, we can all agree. I too fear what is in store in the coming 12 months. We are still minus a replacement for Bent; have just sold a promising young player; don't have a prolific scoring team and have leaked far too many easy goals this season. We have a paper thin squad that has lost 4 loan players and sold 2 of its best in the last 6 months.

I am excited about Sessegnon next term and the prospect of seeing maybe 2 or 3 quality player bought in. However, I get a nagging feeling in the pit of my stomach that we are not omitting the right signals to the better players that we are still ambitious enough to attract their interest and that we may now end up looking desperate, trying to sign has beens, injury prone players and down right plodders.

Has there ever been a bigger summer of recruitment for the sakes of the manager, the chairman and the whole future of the club? They simply have to get it right.