The sale's not come off and I've seen no evidence that Mandy has anybody with real money remotely interested in investing. There's been no official comments from either side to believe. It's typical treatment. It's poor fayre again.
As if she would produce proof of funds to us. And i don’t think Ashley’s crew would have been speaking to Mandy’s crew without having had some checks and confirmations on money availability despite his current claims.
I think that's why Ashley may have walked away - Mandy didn't have evidence of interested backers. She may have done due diligence, but isn't this about accounts of the club rather than on her ability to pull together £300m?
It also involves the buy providing evidence that they have the funds to buy. Staveley provided that evidence.
Ffs. You seriously claiming that because it’s not a ‘direct quote’ it’s not him?! Holy ****, man, are you Wisey in disguise?
No. I'm just not stupid enough to believe it is. I like to live in the real world and base opinion on things that can be confirmed. These rumours are not facts, if we believed all of it was coming from her and Ashley then both have contradicted themselves several times. 2 things can be (pretty much). 1. He told Rafa 3 weeks ago it won't go through and he will give him whatever support he can in the transfer market (unless Rafa is a liar of course) 2. She seems to confirm she as offered a one off 250m payment and he wants 350m. That is all she wrote really. I'm not sure why people are getting their knickers in a twist to be honest. They are 100m apart. The deal if there is to be one appears a long way off.
There's a lot more than that wrong with it. Rafa knows first week of Jan, no players have turned up in spite of the fat ones promise. Slightly weird that Rafa knew, yet said nothing...until the 19th Jan? Any particular reason he waited?! Perhaps even he doesn't believe the **** fatman spouts and probably has been talking to PCP or at least keeping abreast of developments. I just get the feeling that Rafa trusts Mike about as much as most fans do. She confirmed three offers, one that had a total value of £350m. Mike said he'd accept a deferred payment agreement to put the club in the right hands. Would you adam & eve it, he's only gone and lied again. who would have seen that coming. He must know that when you're selling part way through a season with a horrendous Jan window your only hope for survival that ANY buyer is going to want some kind of caveats based on PL survival. Unless he's still being "advised" by the kind of ****wits who said Kinnear was a good idea, who thought the stadium should be renamed, who suggested Charnley SHOULD be in charge, who felt Wise was the right appointment, etc., etc., etc., etc. Just wanted to touch back on the stadium renaming. He said - and heaven forbid he's a ****ing serial **** and liar - he did so to prove the commercial value to Newcastle United. Since then, he has done not a ****ing thing about our commercial income, selling the shirt off to Wonga and continuing to broadcast his sweatshop branding for ****ing free, holding the club ransom over a couple of loans - loans that only came into existence BECAUSE of Ashley, not in spite of him. So again he has, through direct quotes, been shown to be a lying toerag. I get that AS/PCP are playing PR games, nobody should think otherwise and there is absolutely no guarantee they wouldn't be the next Ellis Short. But my belief here is that for Ashley to get success, 17th is the aim in the PL, as all he's remotely bothered about is advertising. For an investor, on pitch success is imperative, so 1st is the aim. The more success, the more the investment is worth.
I can't find anywhere her confirming three bids. I can find an article in the Times where she says her bid (singular used not plural) remains on the table. That is a direct quote. This has been repeated in The National in her most recent interview. I would imagine there has been some toing and froing though, I just don't believe its wise to listen to what the likes of The Chronny and others try to piece together. They've all changed their story about 15 times already. They couldn't lie straight in bed to be honest. I can find sources reporting 3 bids with dates and details. However the person writing the article actually said "no doubt Ashley's camp will contest the details given". It is all rumour and conjecture. I believe the club is still for sale to anyone who wants to meet his valuation, including PCP, and he is still open to installments. It is simply a case of someone paying him what he wants or negotiating a lower price. Clearly 250m is not going to get the job done, that we do know. If I was selling Newcastle United there is no way I'd accept any clauses about survival or the HMRC. You either buy it and all its issues, or you don't. If I was trying to get a clean break I'd want exactly that. And actually as a Newcastle fan, that is exactly what I would want so really he is doing us a favour. Does she and her partners want to own a football club or not is the question? All this slippery clause bollocks would worry me they are not serious.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...h?shareToken=6eadc4ce8de1d0985a89f964a801d5e0 Not looking very hard, mate, or is this selective googling... I've literally no idea where this defence of the biggest **** of all time comes from. He makes Shepherd look like a decent bloke. Serial bullshitter with no sense of humility, morality or sensibility. You talk of "I wouldn't accept clauses" - I call absolute bullshit. There's a very good chance this club will be worth around £150m, tops, in just 4 months time. VERY good chance. We haven't the money (thanks, Mike) or skill (thanks, Lee) to get the players needed to stay up so it beggars any belief that Ashley is holding out for a sum of money he has NO CHANCE OF GETTING!! He's just utterly and completely full of ****. He's so ****ing ignorant and arrogant, so utterly beholden to the belief that he's 'the man', he's the guy who holds all the cards, when in reality he's fcked this club, time and again, with his incompetent boobery. Mark my words - he'll ****ing do it again. He won't sell, he won't invest, we'll go down, lose Rafa and bring in some no mark like Gary Monk. Where do you think he's going to get £350m from then? Where does HE think it's coming from?! I cannot fathom how the man is remotely wealthy, let alone a billionaire. He's ill-advised, a serial liar and a sham.
The problem is, I don't think he cares. He would prefer to gamble and lose than not to try and get what he thinks the club is worth. It won't bankrupt him if he loses, and his life experience is that most gambles end up working for him - though that doesn't mean this one will.
The Times article above doesn't hasn't have any quote from her though apart from saying her £250m bid remains on the table. And that she was hurt by the suggestion they were wasting time. The bit you quote is an alleged series of bids not confirmed by either party. I think it supposedly came from the Chris Mort, formerly of NUFC, who is allegedly some how involved in her legals for the deal. Its all very incestuous worryingly. I can't think of many businessmen in Ashley's situation who would accept clauses. You think otherwise so we are not going to agree here.To be honest I find the idea of it laughable. Its a put up or shut up situation. The mexican stand off is not going to work for either party. However Ashley has a profitable business, he doesn't have to be in any rush to sell. The onus is really on her and her partners. How much do they want to own this football club is the question really. He has undoubtedly done a poor job of managing the club in the past. Now he can't afford to make the club anything more than also rans. He seems to understand the fans want more and is willing to make it happen if someone meets his valuation of the club. They haven't so far. There is ifs buts and maybes with relegation. It could happen but based on performance so far it won't. We are almost 2/3 of the way through the season and we are not currently occupying a relegation slot. He is a selling a PL with a threat of relegation, not a championship club with a chance of PL football. I think he values the club too highly. I think her offer is too low. I believe once the debt is included the club has cost him 234m to buy plus whatever else he has had to fund along the way. Realistically he has no reason to sell for 250m. Its not like its tanking. Even if they did go down he has shown he can get the club back up after one season. I think we will sign two or three players (loan or permanent) and probably scrape by. He has a history of investing when our PL status is threatened, I don't think that will change. Personally I hope she finds the extra money and has a serious crack at it. We need a change. To enable that to happen though she will have to improve her offer.
