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so where do we go from here

Discussion in 'Wycombe' started by Rocky blue army, Oct 2, 2011.

  1. Rocky blue army

    Rocky blue army Well-Known Member

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    i know waddock has got some things wrong but i dont think we should get rid of him,who are we gonna get and how long before we are back to square one again,unless martin oneill fancys a second stint as manager we should stay with waddock .
     
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  2. theblues

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    i'm not saying sacking him is the best option, but he has to recognise his shortcomings and act on them quickly, if he does want to stay as manager.
     
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  3. Rocky blue army

    Rocky blue army Well-Known Member

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    seems a long time ago since we had this feel good factor at the club
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  4. Rocky blue army

    Rocky blue army Well-Known Member

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    i agree waddock has to sort this mess out ,i also agree most of our players have so far NOT CUT IT IN THIS DIVISION
     
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  5. Chairboy100

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    Just back from the game tonight and must say an all round poor performance - other than good shows from Jordan Ibe, Kadeem Harris and of course Bull no one put in a decent shift. Benyon was dreadful - his only contributions were one mis placed header and an air shot from a good position - really need to consider whether to retain him for the rest of his loan period - started with Rendell (assumed to be the starting striker combination before the season started) and to put it politely both were ineffective.

    Two big concerns are :-
    The defence - McCoy, Foster, Johnson & Tunnicliffe started tonight and were given the run around by an average league 2 side - with the current injuries it's not as if this is our second string ... these players are our best picks at the moment.

    Waddock - definitely not calling for him to go at this stage - but given that this is totally his squad he has totally missed the mark in terms of building for League 1 with the recruitment of the large number of Aldershot players, many of which could be classed as average league 2 players - would have thought that developing a relationship with QPR would be a better approach. How many managers at any level survive a record of P8 - W1 - L7 - he really does need to turn it around now - also not helped by three of the next five games are against top seven sides - Charlton, Sheff Wed & Harlepool. I do try to always look for the positives... but must admit at the moment these are few and far between !
     
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  6. Rocky blue army

    Rocky blue army Well-Known Member

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    agreed very worrying times,rumour has it there is a press conference at adams park in the morning,i wonder if that is waddock leaving or steve hayes or both
     
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  7. Bilversack

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    Apparently Waddock kept the players in the dressing room for 40 mins tonight, and yes I've also heard rumours of a press conference tomorrow. According to the Bucks Advertiser facebook page, they asked him if he would be bringing in any new faces. He replied 'have you got any money?' Obviously that prick Hayes isn't freeing any up then.

    I am afraid.
     
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  8. Chairboy100

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    Sounds ominous - what odds on Ainsworth as temporary manager ??
     
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    Pitiful performance last night. Looked bright early on but just fell to pieces. I'm starting to worry for GW, it looks like his head is on the chopping block. I just wish that fat bastard Hayes would feck right off and let the club be run by someone who actually cares and is willing to give the manager the money he needs. Granted Waddock has made bad decisions, like signing Halls and harding but letting go Montrose and Murtagh? Also letting JPP go was a mistake. Times are looking pretty grim to be honest. I hope Waddock stays, but i just can't see that happening. We all know how ruthless that fat f***er Hayes is. ://
     
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  10. gravey5174

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    Altho bloomfield is a hard worker and has put a lot in to the club i don't think he is the answer. Lewis and Donnelly with rowlands in a cnetral midfield 3 is what i preferred but apparently they got overrun aginst rochdale and with no disrespect to rochdale that shouldn't happen on the consistent basis that it did. Perhaps this will improve once rowlands gets more games under his belt and his match sharpness improves.

    I might be wrong here but it appears that alot of the problems stem from an inability for someone to organise the defence or show any kind of leadership in the backline. Goals that were conceded against rochdale and reading the report against cheltenham the number of chances they had was far too many and last season there were also too many occasions were nikki bull got us out of jail it does appear that this is a major issue.

    I remember when we had a long and continuous streak in what is league 1 was near enough always based around at least one experienced central defender i.e. McCarthy, Bates, Evans, Forsyth. Although i think Johnson is a solid capable defender i don't think he is a leader or an organiser at the back and neither do Winfield or Tunnicliffe look like it either. does anyone agree?
     
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  11. Rocky blue army

    Rocky blue army Well-Known Member

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    i think we will be better off at the back when winfield gets back after his injury layoff,but the facts are the full back berths are letting us down,we need to defend as a unit which we are not doing,sandell is just not fit enough or good enough.and swapping mccoy and foster about every other week doesnt help the defence to settle.the other problem we have is too many times this season our midfield are not tracking back and are leaving both full backs playing against 2 or 3 opposing players,this needs adressing by waddock now before its too late.i do agree we need an organiser at the back like terry evans used to do.the trouble is we have been spoilt by having some never say die players in the past ,the likes of brownie ,cousins, evans ,bates and mcarthy would walk right into this team,who at the moment are just not good enough.
     
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  12. armchairboy

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    I think that gravey has hit the nail on the head. We need someone in the middle with some fire, determination, and spirit. We get that when Ainsworth is playing, but lets face it he cannot go on forever, and is not a regular starter. I for one have never been a fan of goalies being skipper. So for me I don't think that you could do worse than put the armband on Stuart Lewis. If there is someone who can lead by example, and get stuck in, then he is the one for me.
     
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  13. Rocky blue army

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    you are probably right no one else in the midfield comes close
     
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  14. Rocky blue army

    Rocky blue army Well-Known Member

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    considering our dismal run of form or lack of it the crowd at adams park has been right behind the players and management and will continue on saturday so thats one exuse they havent got as to why they are performing so bad.we need a win ugly or not against walsall otherwise waddock will be on his way out of the door.
     
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  15. 1887 Til I Die

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    All I can say is get behind the lads on Saturday, they give it there all and if we loose then the better team won.

    As for the talk of Wadock going, it's all bull****, we are only 10 games in. He hasn't been help by the team not creating chances!

    Have Faith like we did last season.

    In the Wadfather we Trust!!
     
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  16. Chairboy100

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    Fully agree 1887 - must admit after the last couple of performances and the announcement of today's press conference I jumped to the wrong conclusion about Waddock. He has shown that he can turn things around - a couple of times last season we had poor runs - but ultimately ended the season strongly and achieved promotion. Also the previous year - if we had had a few more games we may just have avoided relegation.

    Full support on Saturday - let's make this the turnaround point !!
     
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  17. Tewkesbury Addick

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    Thought I'd put my two penn'orth in...hope you don't think it's out of place.

    A side that's on its uppers wouldn't have beaten Sheffield United but a side that's low on confidence and low on support simply won't believe in its own ability to pull that sort of result out week after week. Seriously, how does a team motivate itself with 931 people in the ground?

    In many ways it's a pity you played Preston so soon after The Blades - two damned hard games. A slightly easier follow-up game could have led to confidence boosting back-to-back wins and seriously kick-started your revival.

    Finally, if E-Bay is so good, to hell with throwing a youngster in at the deep end, just play him and let others feed off his skill, energy and enthusiasm. OK, it puts him in the shop window, but if he's that good you're going to lose him anyway - better he goes out the front door as a first team regular, than the back door as a 'fantastic prospect we never saw'.

    It's just a bad patch. Keep the faith.

    Coming down for the game on the 25th and thoroughly looking forward to it.
     
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  18. Rocky blue army

    Rocky blue army Well-Known Member

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    evening tewkes,your welcome on here anytime,the tin pot always has low crowds ,i for one dont bother with it myself.our home crowd against sheff utd and preston were superb ,non stop singing for 90 mins and got right behind the team.we would have lot bigger crowds in the league but too much stuff going on behind the scenes with the owner and the egg chasing wasps.fans have voted their dissaproval against it by not renewing their season tickets.glad you are coming down to our place but i hope you have a good day barring the result of course.
     
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  19. Rocky blue army

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    you going for a beer before hand on saturday,i have got my voice back to full fitness again so looking forward to it.as for the wadfather you know how i feel about him he will come good so as you say lets get behind him on saturday and make **** loads of noise again,see you saturday mate.
     
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  20. Ron

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    In the Sheff and Preston games we had a team of players all giving 100% and playing for each other, showing their togetherness at the end of the game also. In those circumstances it's the equivalent of all players giving 110%. However, with such a team it is absolutely vital that there is a leader on the pitch who can motivate them to these levels when things go wrong. Otherwise the demoralising effect on a few players will have a crumbling (domino) effect on the rest of the team. There is only one player who can do this and that is Ainsworth. Rhino, Steve Brown, Creaser are others from the past that had this vital attribute. However good a player is, if he has a negative effect on the team he should be left out. One player not pulling their weight may not per se be enough to demotivate a team but it could de-motivate one more player. Two de-motivated players may be enough to de-motivate one or two more players and so on. Result, one dismal performance after another and it just gets worse. Waddock needs to identify the self motivators and pull them together with the easily motivated. Even if it's not the best team on paper, 11 players giving 100% and playing for each other is what we need right now.

    Clearly there is a dip in morale at present and now I know why that is. Waddock has a responsibility to put out a team that will play their hearts out, proud to wear a Wycombe shirt. If the team don't want to play there's not much Waddock can do.

    This is a major test of his managerial capability. A team performance on Saturday will help to pull him through this. Give it your best shout lads and I hope your efforts are rewarded.
     
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