When you give me my answer, i Will give you mine. But as you said yourself, you have no intention to take the time to research,until you do my answers Will be with held dear fellow
All the Hitlers are up in Legoland dude, you should know that by now, Heaven help us when this lot arrive in the Prem! Just doesn't bear thinking about!.................. Norway I agree, not gone unnoticed by me either, if he's not arguing with Dai, it's musty, if it's not musty, it's you, and if all else fails, he's always got me to fall back on for an argument! Must be going through the male menopause
Maybe he is misunderstood ?? Im prepared to move on but as you can see others arnt ,fine by me ,im holding all the Aces in this discussion anyway
Didn't think you'd answer Norway , just goes to show you how both questions being asked are a bit difficult to answer .... equally .
You mis understand, answer mine and i ll answer yours, you cant turn it around breeze, you can never answer a question with a question! i have already given one example of a player that was out long term and never could return to his level and that was Darren way. Now off you go and reserch my question (a question for a topic that you didnt want to talk about earlier) there s a good boy
Daniel Prodan £2m / Athletico Madrid – Rangers / Knee. The Romanian centre-back made a promising start to his career. He played over 150 games for Steaua Bucuresti and Atlético Madrid between 1992-1998 before then moving to Rangers for £2million. In his three years in Glasgow he played precisely zero matches due to a knee injury that he had actually already suffered before moving to the club. A club doctor is reported to have admitted that the deal was rushed through without a medical being completed. He only went on to play 33 more games in the rest of his career. Over to you Cracker
Pierluigi Casiraghi £5.4m / Lazio – Chelsea / Knee. The Italian striker came to England in 1998 with 90 career club goals and 44 caps to his name. In his two years at Stamford Bridge he would add just one more goal to his name and never feature for his country again. He played for Chelsea just ten times before a cruciate ligament injury halted his career. Like Luc Nilis, he collided with a goalkeeper, this time West Ham's Shaka Hislop, and he would never play again Still waiting cracker....
. Fernando Redondo £11million / Real Madrid – AC Milan / Knee. Having spent the prime of his career at Real Madrid, the Argentine midfielder cost AC Milan the tidy sum of £11million when he moved to the San Siro in 2000. He is reported to have suffered the first of his many knee problems (that would ultimately claim his career) just three minutes into his first training session at the Italian club. In his defence, Redondo did suspend his wages while he was unavailable for selection. He did not feature for the side in either of his first two seasons at the club and, in total, only managed 16 appearances before eventually admitting defeat to his persistent knee problems and retiring in 2004. Cheers Cracker
Breezy you are a one aye, if you would like help in finding players that have come back from the CL knee injury successfully, then you need look no further than Swansea city's very own Marcos Painter, who has gone on to sign a further two year contract with Brighton, after a very successful first season, even scoring his first goal for Brighton against Walsall, just thought I'd help you out old mate, sorry Norway!..................
Others that never returned to the same level after being out long term . 1. Dean ashton-West ham (Ankle) 2. Valeri Bojinov-Fiorentina/Man city (Knee & Achilles) 3. John kennedy -celtic/Norwich (knee) The above (john kenenedy ) has a very similar path to Ferrie Bodde ,injured 2005 retired in 2009. "John Kennedy (born 18 August 1983 in Bellshill, Scotland) is a retired Scottish professional footballer who played as a centre back for Celtic and Norwich City. He was also a Scotland international, but suffered a horrific knee injury on his Scotland debut in March 2004. He retired on 13 November 2009, having failed to fully recover and now works for Celtic as a scout" 4.Kieron dyer-QPR/West ham- Knee/various 5.
Dragon its not the recovery from the injury its more the combined injury and time out of playing!! there have been a few who recovered from ACL/PCL injuries and carried on at the same level but there have been very few if any that have returned to the same level after being out long term like bodde has been. As i just posted the guy Kennedy sounds very similar to bodde in time frame, the longer you are away though the harder it is to come back, ive never said its impossible im saying there arnt many that have ever returned to a high level after being out for long term.
Gary monk recovered but was he out 3yrs? Marcos painter recovered but was he out 3yrs? PS Im still waiting Breeze , and Dragons helping hand doesnt qualify
Didn't know being out " 3 years " was a requirement . Every case is different . Bodde came back once already , then went down again . I suppose if a player doesn't come back at all , he knows right away & doesn't need to wait 3 seasons to be used in a trivia answer . Like I say , it's a loaned question
You can find players to support both sides of the argument though in my view, some players successfully come back with no problem, like Painter, who was out for 12 months, and others seem to be dogged with the issue forever afterwards, so it's maybe the physical and genetic makeup of the player, that either helps or hinders! Anyway Bodde has played half a game already, will have a rest spell and then be back in for another Reserves game, rest assured folks, and Norway of course, that the Bodde Supremacy returns!.................
None of the players you mentioned was out 3 years , only a year , except for Kennedy who needed several operations by specialists . One of them is was angle injury , I thought this was about ACL . Like I say , tough questions to answer , mine as much as yours
Well the origional requirement of my question was about long term and returning to the same level of sport after that time out, Bodde has been out 3 yrs. It was not even about Knee injuries more about who was able to return from any injury after being out long term,3 yrs or whatever!! you dont even know what your arguing over now!! Are you now trying to say Bodde hasnt been out long term just 3 short term injuries Those names you put up Cracker have no relelvence to the question i asked, and i explined that to Dragon. Maybe we should put it another way, those player you mentioned have recovered,and carried on playing at a higher level,though it is common knowledge that alot of them lost a yard of pace.How long were they out of they game for? about 1 year is the norm right? Now, poor old ferrie has been extremly unlucky and had complications a result of which meant he hasnt played a game for about 3 yrs, the players that never returned to the same level are always the players that never quite get it right medically, there is no god given right that you should recover from these injuries, and the longer a player is out the harder it gets,the reason they are out long term is mostly because the injuries have unforseen complications or grafts dont take or the operation is not a success. Constant opening up of the knee brings further problems, and with that further complications, with the time spent on this blokes knee/operations/recovery its clear that his problems are not as routine as some of the others, a hard pill to swallow but thats life. My point about the long term angle is valid,normally if somebody drops out of top level sport for that long they hardly if ever return to that level, his knee must be a mess by now with all the poking and prodding around inside,not to mention the infections he s had. Im not saying its impossibe for him to return im saying its going to be difficult to get back to the level (in fact higher) that he was once at because he has been away for so long! i havent come across anybody who has not played for 3 yrs and came back good as new,please feel free to show me someone who has.
