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Stumpy said:
TRUTH = Won at Old Traford.
TRUTH = Unbeaten, played 3 won 3, (plus 1 cup).
TRUTH = Conceded only 1 goal in 4 games
TRUTH = Currently joint top of the English Premier League.
TRUTH = Ki, current form and 4 year contract counters previous administration mistakes.
TRUTH = Clique, dumped.
TRUTH = Bony stays despite your delusions that he was desperate to leave and 'would be gone' by the end of the window. <laugh>. I told you he'd stay RJ and I'll TELL YOU NOW, he'll be hear all season, short of a 'MASSIVE' offer in Jan, mark this as FACT RJ.
TRUTH = Monks team top of the EPL.
TRUTH = Laudrups team top of the Qatar Stars League, big club manager my arse.
TRUTH = Our squad is stronger after transfer surgery with added quality (name every signing we've made this transfer here), eighty-sixing surplus (the clique as well as the dead wood), retaining the vital (Bony et-al), offering a chance and a future to fringe players, Ki, Bartley, and I'd include Amat in this, our senior players are playing as well as they can.
TRUTH = It don't get much better than this, we know who we are and we are a small club capable of competing against giants.

Enjoy your cold dark fantasies RJ, I'd rather sing in the real world.
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You should change that to Barclays Premier League to be politically correct.
 
Hope your right stumpy on everything you said s, doesn' t change who we've become though and my dark fantasies have more to do with Vanessa williams than football
 
Valley: "There is nothing to complain about this season as of yet, yet the threads are still full of moaning. "

Hmmm. Not sure mate. Many like myself, Terror and Swanselona have simply pointed out some inescapable realities and been abused for our trouble - but we've praised Monk and the team as they all deserve it.

But I do think that Roof must be living on another planet as opposed to another country. <laugh>
 
'The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem! Do you understand? ' - Captain Jack Sparrow

Sums up all the posts so far I think ! <hug>
 
I love when people tell me what my gripes are ..lol.. has nothing to do with results , although some will take results to the bank as the only measure of success while reputation falls by the wayside . Time will tell , not just a few games in but for seasons to come .
 
ValleyGraduate12 said:
But its a new season and everyone should be pulling forward rather than looking back. There is nothing to complain about this season as of yet, yet the threads are still full of moaning.
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Nobody is complaining about this season. But ... based on what I read in the Swans v WBA match thread ... after the usual post game commentary, the Monkistas had a lovely time waxing poetic about Monk's accomplishments. Which, of course, is fair to do ... and I think everybody is enjoying our season so far ... but when the waxing poetic turns to gloating with snide references to the issues of the past ... well you reap the crop you sow. And this thread is pivoting on the position that "today is great", "ends justify the means" and other notions that lack intellectual honesty. Stumpy's list of truths is a classic example .... all true, and nobody disputes them, but not the complete list .... is it.

If you forget the lessons of the past, they shall be repeated. For example, if there's is one thing that is a TRUTH of the close season it is the max-exodus of a contingent of quality players. Why - the curious might ask - because in any situation, political or otherwise, whenever a leader of a faction comes to power, there is, almost always, a purge of the non-members of the new power base - they either leave of their own accord or are pushed out. Monk, if nothing else, is true to form. His clique swept to power and a purge followed. This is also a TRUTH. Not particularly pretty, but not all TRUTHs are. Another generalized result of a coup is that the old leader is usually sabotaged and in political situations most likely ends up dead. Monk's rise to power tracks the generalization.

It is what it is.
 
What quality players? Other than Michu the rest have gone backwards in their careers. Its not as if other clubs were falling over themselves to sign them.
As for the clique I'd take Monks group who put the interests of the club before the Spanish clique.
 
ValleyGraduate12 said:
What quality players? Other than Michu the rest have gone backwards in their careers. Its not as if other clubs were falling over themselves to sign them.
As for the clique I'd take Monks group who put the interests of the club before the Spanish clique.
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I wasn't aware there were two active cliques ... at least not before ML was removed.
 
Id be more worried about WHO caused it , one of the combatants is our current manager taff .. Laudrup probably wasnt aware of the knives in his back
 
Taffvalerowdy said:
Wasn't the "brick incident" during ML's reign?
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The fact that two players have a go at each other doesn't imply gang warfare - just two players having a go at each other. IvorallJack has many times told the story of Pintado and Painter getting into some ferocious challenges during a practice game - it happens. The fact that there happened to be a brick lying around between Monk and Chico says more about the groundskeeper if you ask me ... WTF is a loose brick doing on a practice ground.
 
Yankee - I wasn't implying "gang warfare". I was responding to your comment re two active cliques.

As for the brick - perhaps Chico was a Boy Scout in his youth ...... "be prepared" and all that!:grin:
 
roofjack_22 said:
Hope your right stumpy on everything you said s, doesn' t change who we've become though and my dark fantasies have more to do with Vanessa williams than football
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Nice <ok> Thandie Newton for me RJ.

Personally I'm happy watching Swansea City again instead of Swansealona. I'm sure we'll both be happy if the results keep going our way.

Can't agree with your views on the board though, which must rub off on Monk as they appointed him. A lot of the stuff said is simple conjecture, unfounded, unsubstantiated and on many occasions inappropriate. Wouldn't life be boring though if we agreed on everything.

Hope you get over your shoulder problems, its a barteward I know. Currently laid up myself, had an accident last year which exaserpated and old problem. Now my shoulder regularly pops and I don't have to be doing anything for it to happen. All down to poor medical care I received after I fell off a dodgy gantry (only 10 feet), nearly 30 years ago. Putting up with painful manipulation, I hate the fekkin physio, and lately, meditation which has been shockingly effective and very helpful as I can't take painkillers other than Aspirin.

Good luck buddy.
 
Taffvalerowdy said:
Yankee - I wasn't implying "gang warfare". I was responding to your comment re two active cliques.

As for the brick - perhaps Chico was a Boy Scout in his youth ...... "be prepared" and all that!:grin:
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I hear you, but I don't see that the Monk / Chico bricking incident implies the existence of a second clique. I could easily see that factions formed after the ML departure. It would be strange if that event didn't create polarization within the club - probably three ways at least - those that were pro-Monk, those that took umbrage at the way ML was treated, and those that didn't give a **** either way, and may be subdivisions between those.

Chico a boy scout ... :grin: ... did he throw it and then roll around.
 
roofjack_22 said:
Id be more worried about WHO caused it , one of the combatants is our current manager taff .. Laudrup probably wasnt aware of the knives in his back
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how can he not be aware ??? he was suppose to be the manager so how the hell does he not know that players were knocking on the chairman's door making complaint after complaint about his methods and lack of training, bloody hell he never use to turn up half the time himself and that transferred to the pitch where you cant fail to see the results that sent a previously successful club progressing to one that was a loser and dropping at an alarming rate that we were just 2 points from one of the relegation places and when you look back now at the way sunderland and palace had a brilliant last few games then we would have joined our cousins up the road back in the championship. We have a lot of gratitude to give Jinx for biting the bullet and sacking laudrup and having the guts to go with his instinct in putting someone like monk in charge an a last ditch effort to save our season. jinx knew we had to get back to playing the Swansea way and he knew monk had the experience to make it happen and yet again he was right...<ok>
 
My biggest problem with the injury stumpy is sports has been my existence since I could walk . Over a hundred seasons of various sports , now its all been taken from me ...I dont know what ill do , Im basically inconsolable . Family and friends say ill get over it , they dont understand . Some people go on holidays , some people have hobbies , some bury themselves in work , but sports is everything to me , Im worried about how this all plays out , super depressed. I guess lll have to suck it up and move on but it will be the hardest thing Ive ever done . I guess I could come on here more with my views .. then you guys can be inconsolable. ....lol
 
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