In our 4 year history in the Premier League we finished 17th - Relegated - 16th - Relegated. I could well be wrong here but those stats don't sound like the achievements of a "decent manager" to me OLM.
Out of curiosity, which we/our would that be? http://www.not606.com/threads/sunderland-could-be-safe.327299/#post-9144587
I like that but contrary to a lot of posters on here I thought Steve Bruce was a great 'catch' for Hull City afc and maybe I expected a bit more but I soon realized that when Steve approached prospective 'quality' players he got the same answer as Brownie before him "Thanks, but No Thanks"!
I don't know why you're doing this via PM, but I guess it's to avoid disrupting the thread. Fair enough, I just don't generally agree with this 'more than one club mullarky' unless it's for general football fans with a soft spot. Neither of us will change our views, so I guess it's best left at that.
Dowie was never appointed our manager, he was brought in a consultant for nine games, for reasons nobody understands.