I can't find any information on how much he walked away with, nor do I know how much he put in. I only see it from a distance and Bartlett seemed to have been left holding the baby by his former associates... Please provide figures if you have them...
Yeah, let's forget Peter Taylor eh? Molby ? Rubbish- I mean I know he'd played for Ajax and Liverpool, and played in WC86 in Mexico, but as a strggling 4th division club,m we should have aspired to better Ditto Brian Little- that League Cup win at Wembley and promotions with Leicester to the Prem..... Just shows how poor AP was to appoint such rubbish
You've just made exactly the kind of ridiculous point that I criticised. You suggest that all 20,000 of us knew that Fryatt couldn't play as a lone striker but because Barmby was inexperienced he didn't know that. Think about it, the guy understands football better than any of us but you really think that just because the concensus on here is that Fryatt can't play on his own, Barmby must have been wrong. Maybe, just maybe, the one who saw him train every single day decided it was better for them team if he did play up front on his own. I can't believe people still make this point that just because he was inexperienced in management he must not notice things that the fans do. I don't doubt that experience in management will help a manager over the years and he will learn to deal with certain situations better with experience, but it certainly isn't the case that all new managers are totally braindead about football and need time to learn the things that the fans already know.
Agree, sometimes things just don't work. Same with Parkinson, he was one of the most sought after managers around at the time but just completely didn't work. Dowie is the only one I'd say was really a poor appointment.
i think you missed his point a bit. in any case dowie's managerial points per match ratio is better than brown's.
Am i the only one who is wondering where the money spent on Proschwitz will come from? As with FPP rules we have to break even pretty soon, do the Allams even know this? On missing Pearson and Barmby. I miss the fact that he was trying a new system, a modern system that works if you have the right players and i just hope we don't go back to the usual 4-4-2. However i think we all knew we needed a striker and a few other players, but i am pretty sure if Barmby was given the money he would of found someone to get us goals. I don't get the Pearson criticism, without him the Allams wouldn't be here. So we wouldn't have Bruce if it wasn't for Pearson. We may not have had a club, thats twice he has saved us from the brink of oblivion. His appointment of managers was a bit iffy at times, but i think Barmby only got it due to Joyce pulling out at the last minute. However he did hire Brown and Taylor.... Pearson is behind a lot of thinks that we have enjoyed over the past few years, and lot of the success we may have in the future will be down to AP, Barmby and even Nigel Pearson who we have a lot to thank for.
People say this but as far as Im aware there is absolutely no reason why Nick cant register as a player again. He really doesnt have to be 'retired', its not like when you hang up your boots you have to fill in a form with the PFA and say you'll never play again - he can! Didnt Steve Claridge come back as a player after being manager of Miywaw?
well we have £7m parachute money this year , we just wont pay as much back of the interest free loan to allam marine holdings or whatever its called ... to be honest considering we have paid over half of the original £40 mill owed to them I think we have done pretty well over all ... nice to see us push the boat out a little and nice to see the allams back the new man in charge where it matters ..
You have to see things from Nicks perspective, if I was him I would be mightily ****ed off with football and probably disenchanted enough to walk away from the game. I respect what he did for the club and whether his exit was justified ( and how will we know until all the facts are clear from both sides), for what he put in I think he was shabbily dealt with. Brucey says what he likes so we could see a lot of hypocrisy from the owners further down the line, will they treat him like they did Nicky, can't see it! Somebody get Nickys side of the story!
I dont miss Adam at all. But I do wish Nick was here not as manager but wish he could have finished his playing career naturally with Hull City then maybe move into another role. One thing Nick Barmby was to the cause is that he made it clear through out his playing career tha he wanted one day to finish his playing days for Hull City, he didnt even leave it untill he was washed up, but joined us in good physical shape and his salary expectations were a lot less then he was accustomed to. I feel the current owners could have dealt with his naivety behind closed doors but its all water under the bridge now and it cant do no good dragging the past up. So yer I miss Barmby his loyalty was unquestionable, and I wish him well in the future where ever he will end up
It's daft going into the financials when there is so much we do not know. Dowie, FFS Dowie. That one word makes Pearsons whole strategy a big crock of ****! I very much doubt 20,000 fans were not shouting for that particular loser. Not too sure of where you are going with that one; Derby were busting a gut to get shod of him! The collective sigh of relief made the joints burn twice as fast in Nottingham! Try getting down off that high horse of yours, partner! The 20,000 was a rhetorical response to your comment; a comment that indeed had already made such a stupid assertion in another context. Let’s get some facts straight from mid and post season knowledge: It was Barmby who said we did not need strengthening. Same man who continued with a piss-poor format for getting goals. Fryatt and others remarked on our lack of goals and the failings of the system employed. If you are going to try and lecture me, do so with a better argument and facts than that; Barmby was a paid manager, he made his choices and it did not work. I regretted the nature of his departure, but it was inevitable; he had all the advantages of age to become a successful manager, but none of the experience at this stage. They offered him the job, he took a very long time to do his Due-Diligence and then he took it. We all do that; time to move on! Like I said earlier; they offered him the job, he took a very long time to do his Due-Diligence and then he took it. We can all do that; time to move on!
Little did get us to the play offs though, as for Adam Pearson and Nick Barmby, I miss them both AP loved Hull City and had the clubs best interests at heart, you just can't forget just what he did for us, and yes Boothferry Park was falling apart but his vision since moving has seen our best Years EVER and NB I miss him but as a player and a role model to the younger lads, it's plain to see he had a great career at the top and the City kids aspired to that,I don't miss him as a manager though as a few said above I think he should of stayed a coach for a few years then maybe.. The Allams will do eventually what so many have done before, hire fire and in the end move on, all we can do is enjoy the now and get behind Steve Bruce, he's like a breath of fresh air coming to the club it's what we needed and I expect to still see him at the club for at least two seasons.
You seem to miss the point that AP did many great things for City but was not infallible. Taylor was an undoubted success. Molby was a great player but we didn't attract him from Liverpool. He had just taken the mighty Kidderminster from the Conference to the football league and was a disatrous appointment. AP did not appoint Brian Little. He was already at the club when AP took over. Parkinson was a bright young manager, who everyone thought would do well but he is now struggling at Bradford. AP's track record in managerial appointments is at best average but we should always be grateful for his rescuing us.
That's because he never put much in. They bought the club with loans against the club. Like the Glazers but on a smaller scale.
That was my understanding! He didn't have a load of cash that he put in to City, he just had the facility to obtain large loans.
