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So ****ing bitter.

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Depay Sound, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. MUFCOK

    MUFCOK Active Member

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    A bit like Gerrard's starfish last season against Atletico Madrid or N'Gog's Olympic dive against Birmingham? Or Lucas theatrically flying when Eboue breathed on him.

    Hypocrite
     
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  2. BringBackfootie

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    Fair enough, but is it not likely he is biased towards the ref Poll being a fellow ref?

    I am not saying its not true, I just think the source has a conflict of interest there. If the ref gave 5 minutes, would there have been an outcry of too little time, I doubt it. Also, because UNited are usually in the title race any dubious looking decision will be title altering by proxy, which makes it seem even more true, regardless of what refs say or the actual facts:) We know that:)

    Anyways, regardless, I again am not of the opinion it is clubs for the most part that interfere with the game. So even if a ref did give any team a favour, it was most likely an outside influence, Owner or betting synd and very doubtfully anyone officially connected with the managing or playing at the club as the consequences of getting caught, though what stops Fergie having a few whiskeys with Webb during the summer break:)

    Joke...
     
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  3. BringBackfootie

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    in fairness to anti webb comments, United supporters don't think knocking webb is knocking United unless you think of him as one of yer own.

    Webb has made far too many "mistakes" to either be..

    Competent. If that is the case, why the fk does he have a job, his advert for Englsih refs in hte WC final was a joke.
    Corruption he is on the payroll of some bunch of fkers.


    Either way how is this guy reffing such games. Is football turning into panto
     
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  4. MUFCOK

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    You are an idiot if you cannot see Webb as a decent referee. The World Cup Final was probably too soon for him as he is still quite young but the cheating that went on in that game was ridiculous. He had a perfectly good game in the Champions League Final 2 months before so why don't people concentrate on that. Just makes people look like idiots when a referee who is renowned as the best in the World is called biased towards United. No other referee before has been given the Champions League Final and World Cup Final in the same season.
     
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    Are FIFA and UEFA biased against referees with hair?

    First Collina, and now Webb as their favorite. Another murky conspiracy in the footballing halls of power.
     
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    Well as I have said before, he is a yes man and takes instruction from someone else on how to ref the game, which is why the final was not littered with cards. he makes too many weird imaginary decisions for me.

    As for the final he got it because, we know why, but he stil made a balls of it.

    Tell me, did he miss the karate kick or just thought it was an accident, or he chose to ignore it?

    The guy stood right over Fletcher and watched him kick kuyt and done nothing. Watched Neville actually lift wis boot over the back of someone s head he came over the bak of them boot first!?! no free?!? this and tother both in the same game v liverpool, 1 yellow and 1 straight red and he gave no card at all. I have my doubts and so do others for good reason, no smoke without fire, fire being something we dont know, but its fkn burning
     
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    Tell me then. In your opinion who is a good referee? Somebody who has a good record with Liverpool I bet. Who was the referee for the last game at Anfield when Carragher could have broke Nani's leg. Forget his reaction it was a dangerous, red card offence. Who was the referee who let Liverpool play 12 mins added time against Arsenal and let them have 4 extra mins to get a pen the shouldn't have had? Who was the referee that gave you a pen against Birmingham when N'Gog blatently dived.

    Do yourself a favour and stop singling out United's dodgy decisions when there are plenty of other sides that get them
     
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  8. Bloody Wanker

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    The thread title was created just for such "contributions"
     
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  9. robin_van_ fiberglass

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    I think Webb is the best referee in England. I don't understand why he got so much stick in the WC final, Holland complained because they felt he wasn't lenient enough (which is ironic because their entire game plan was based around disrupting Spain by any means necessary) and Spain thought he wasn't strict enough. Add to that the immense pressure of the occasion and I don't see how anyone could do any better.
     
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  10. MUFCOK

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    Very true. I don't think many if any other ref could have done a better job of handling them. All yellow cards were deserved and if he had thrown multiple red cards out (which he could well have done) then he would have been blamed for ruining it.
     
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    Didn't Poll say that Clattenburg was wrong not to send Rooney off for the elbow, and also that the ref in the West Ham game should have sent Rooney off? I think Poll criticises the ref about as often as he defends them, although I'm not a ****rag reader so I can't be certain.

    Can you name a referee in the PL (or the whole of Europe in fact) who you honestly believe is better than Webb? All refs make mistakes and, with the exception of the truly stand out performers like Colina, most make just as many as Webb. And for the WC final, had he reffed it strictly he would have sent off at least three Dutch players, which would have effectively ruined the game and seen him criticised just as much if not more.

    I have no doubt that Webb was urged to show restraint by FIFA and try not to send too many players off. But then any ref chosen to ref the final would have been told exactly the same, and would have done exactly the same cos the alternative would have been to be struck off the elite refs list meaning no chance of any future European or international games. It's the same with all refs - Poll was put under pressure not to send off Keane and Vieira after their fight in the tunnel a few years back, and all refs have been put under pressure in the past not to send players off for bad language and thus ruin games, only for the Utd-West Ham ref to be pressurised after the game into saying he would have sent Rooney off had he heard him swear.

    In fact that's another factor that mitigates against regular, high quality and consistent refereeing - the inconsistent, image focused directions that come from FIFA and the FA who are more concerned with preserving football as a spectacle than as a fair contest.
     
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