So I see that .........................

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OddDog

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................. Richard Hughes is having his last season in the saddle before switching to training.

Best of luck to him - truly one of the great flat jockeys (certainly of my generation) and comes from a great racing family, so no doubt he will click into training pretty smoothly.
 
I have nothing against Hughes, but he is no great! I'd say he'll be regarded as a very good jockey, but knowhere near a great.

The only great that is still riding these days is Fallon, though he is past his best nowadays. I can understand why some may say Dettori aswell.

Hughes is a good jockey don't get me wrong, but he's been somewhat overrated in recent seasons because of the ammunition of Richard Hannon :biggrin:
 
The only great that is still riding these days is Fallon, though he is past his best nowadays. I can understand why some may say Dettori aswell.

Hughes is a good jockey don't get me wrong, but he's been somewhat overrated in recent seasons because of the ammunition of Richard Hannon :biggrin:

...and Fallon and Dettori have been mopping up their group races for Ann Stokell and Co. :rolleyes:
 
Hughes has actually got better in the last few years. I have the upmost respect for the man these days. His success has revolved a lot around his association with Hannon but what top jockey gets there without a leg up.
 
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Agree to a point Stick, in the last few years he's improved a lot, and he is certainly one of the best riders in the weighing room these days. But looking at the bigger picture his big race haul hasn't been impressive enough to be looked upon as a great. The number of classics he's won is knowhere near good enough for a start. :biggrin:
 
To be fair to him Shergs that again is mainly due to his association with the Hannons. They buy and train precocious types and run them accordingly. Not many improve from two to three!
 
I suppose so Stick, I can see your point. It's not like he's tied down to any Hannon runner in the Derby most years though . You'd have thought he'd of been on better horses to try to win the race.
 
"Great" is one of those superlatives that gets thrown about a lot in both sport and life in general. We tend to use it in an emotional sense without any solid data to back it up. How many times have we blurted out, "What a great goal." when a ball has unexpectedly been smashed into the back of the net? Or turn to a mate and exclaim. "Jesus, will you look at that, what a great set of tits." It's just so hard to know what great actually encompasses. Is Lester Piggott a great, or was he a great? Some will say that he was neither, but I think most fair minded pundits will agree that he was one of the two. Tax fraud aside. That last point in itself will strike him off some people's list. ****tards. Sorry about that. I'm a Lester fan, anybody stuck with that name deserves all the empathy they can get. I remember as a teenager, being impressed by Piggott's visits to Queensland in the late 60s, where he gave a riding lessons to a fields of international jockeys in invitational events. He rode a much loved horse called Prunda, (an indigenous word meaning big fella) in both races. In 1969, Prunda at age 9, was having his last start, race number 119 in the second of his Internationals. He looked beaten a dozen times down the straight, but the long fella just kept drawing that little bit extra from the horse when it was most needed. The best rider in the world carrying a much loved hero over the line in his last race start was the stuff of fairy tales. That wonderful day might not rank as a memorable event in global racing, but for those of us living in Queensland, it was a great day. So maybe Oddy has something here, greatness doesn't necessarily have to be about the likes of Sir Gordon Richards and Lester Piggott, maybe it can be of a more personal nature.
 
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