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totsfan said:
We were still only one down,and the plusses are we have 4 players returning from injury,who are usual first teamers
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Are they?, how does anyone know that yet? TS hasn't had everyone fit yet, he's already surprised us not using a couple who some think should be 'usual first teamers'.
 
Yid Vicious said:
I wasn't criticising the luck of their goals, I just don't really believe that they should have scored more. They could have scored more had Lloris not pulled off some great saves or had some of their shots flown into the top corner but they also could have scored less had they not wrongly been given a penalty and got some lucky deflections.

When City play like they did yesterday you need the luck to go your way and it didn't. There were opportunities for the luck to go our way had Dawson's goal been allowed to stand and had Yaya Toure been sent off when he started shouting at the ref whilst already on a booking, that would have been equivalent to the damage done by the penalty decision. There was a bit of luck in our goal too, it landed nicely for Capoue when it could have gone to a City player but as I've said you need to be the side that gets the majority of the luck to beat a team playing as well as City did and we didn't have that.
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I thought even our better players were dismal, the first half hour was torturous to watch, when not chasing shadows, we knocked it about nowhere, got chased down and eventually lost possession, luck and decisions played no part in a third of the game. I saw nothing to suggest an against the run of play equaliser would turn the game, we were impotent in open play. City weren't just suddenly going to play ****e, the goal would more llikely piss them off and they'd step up a gear! Perhaps I'm just sick of the deja-vous, its not just this game or season, it keeps happening, I can't think of another side that concedes 5 so regular to top sides, if its not City its the Goons, if its not them its Chelsea. :(
 
I think our team reminds me of that movie.Remember it?The Good,The Bad and The Ugly.....really ugly too!!!!
 
Man City is much better.
Having said that, we've made a habit of getting off to woefully slow starts: Arsenal, Swansea and Man City. We got away with it against Swansea. It cost us the game against Arsenal and Man City. However good or bad we are, I can't understand why we start a game strolling around. Man City should have put us away early.
And yet: the last 20 minutes of the first half we had the better of it. We looked like we belonged on the same field, and in fact could have sneaked a result if things continued to go well.
So I don't really know how good we are. At least we get good chances, nowadays. It will be a big test to see if we can rebound from a dispiriting loss.
As for fourth...I agree it looks a lot more dubious than it did a week ago. It was reasonable to hope we could keep getting wins, and Liverpool would cool off. Now that we've got Man U with Mata to worry about as well, it's hard to feel too optimistic. It may take 74-76 points to get fourth this year, and, if so, I can't see us getting them.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
This^. Team selection's still unbalanced.
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The only thing I really have a strong view about is that your most skilful player should be in the middle of the pitch, not at the edge. ideally between the centre circle and the penalty spot where every pass can hurt. That's where Erikson or Lamela should play.
 
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