smuginantibes - first post added after closure, see last post - (Ricardo)

I draw the line at being lied about by someone who's supposed to be a moderator .......... hence my return.

I didn't start this thread, it was your mod who thought it would be great idea.

 

I have ...... nothing I said was rude or off topic.

However, it didn't fit the agenda of your mod so he had a tantrum and randomly deleted my posts.

 

We do try to sit in the background, so a lot goes unnoticed. Every now and again, someone will take umbrage, it's inevitable. Moving them to threads like this is it's own proof. The original thread's still tidy, and people can comment on moderation here. We'll never please everyone, but most posters don't need modding anyway.

 

But you lie a little & you're only here to be a pain in the arse, as you are being now. You don't give a **** about our name change or the reasoning around it, if you did you wouldn't of purposely disrupted the thread on the Saints' board until it was shut.

Your mods deleted the thread which carried your threats, including personal ones, that was moved to your board, yet you persist in denying the fact. If they didn't go find it & bump it.

 

What are you, an apprentice mod

I've debated these issues, for days, with decent Hull people .......... your views are too tedious to bother with tbh.
I'm not lying at all. Do you believe that anyone who shows an interest is a liar?

I don't have perfect recall of every thread on the Sunderland board but I have no problems with anything I've posted.

If you believe a thread was deleted that's fine, but it was nothing to do with my threats.

I've happily explained my threats and the reasons for them ........... I'm denying nothing.

 

No one took umbrage, the thread was fine until you came along.
There was no dispute and people were responding politely to my questions.

You just didn't like it when I asked you a question you couldn't answer so deleted my posts to cover your embarrassment.

Then you pretend you're 'just trying to stop any arguments' despite this thread obviously being the cause of an argument

Pathetic man, just own up ffs.

 

This is a joke.

 

Certainly is ........ this is your mod's idea of 'cleaning up the board', I suspect he may be obsessed.

Why would a moderator start a thread and pretend someone else had posted it

 

If you hate the mods on this board, don't post on it. At the end of the day, it doesn't effect you as a person or reflect on your real life character as nobody gives two ****s who you are. Just let it go?

 

Totally agree. It exists as a place to discuss the deleted posts, rather than let the discussion disrupt a decent thread. I think the umbrage and nonsense posted justifies doing it.

Apparently someone's looking at it to decide, so what needed saying's said, it's just burblings now, so I'm happy for whoever it is to review it and decide.


I'll possibly drop any further prunings in here, or maybe just delete.

 

When you move posts from an existing thread they appear on the new thread in the order they were created. As yours was the first post on the other thread to be posted and moved it appears as the first post on this thread.

I explained this would happen in my post on that thread last night (or early this morning depending how you look at it). Tell you what, I'll go and copy my post from last night into the top of this thread, as I think it was posted before any post on here it should work.

I pulled a gun away from someone's head before the trigger was pulled. There was no need for me to do that because there were no brains splattered over the wall when I did it.

The nature of the potential disruption was explained last night.

When you're being accused of censorship it's not really a good idea to remove the posts accusing you of it rather than exlaining the situation.

 

This is where my issue with it comes from. I'm more bothered about what the club is than what it's called, but to decide to change the name on what is effectively a hunch is ridiculous when there are so many fans who do care about it. The fans will always call it the same thing, it's like we talk about sitting in the North/South/East/West Stand without using the name we've sold onto them. Even KC as the stadium sponsors right from day 1, I think in Hull or with people from Hull I just refer to it as the stadium, or the new ground depending on the conversation. Only time I seem to use KC is when I'm talking about it with outsiders (which I guess is a bit like what Allam was saying about HCT nationally and HT internationally).

As I wasn't really around during the first bit it's hard to say. There maybe is a bit of that, but equally there hasn't been anything misleading posted from our side about the deletions (I've not been involved in any of it, I've just looked over it now). There's nothing wrong with the posts themselves, it appears as said to be just "pruning" using the fact we on here (posters, not mods) know more about the situation than smug to stop the thread having to go over lots of slightly different permutations that are comparisons to unrelated situations. Looking at the posts in question I would say the view taken was that one accurate situation being discussed in detail by everyone is a better/more efficient way to provide him with the understanding he's seeking than explaining to him one situation at a time why his present understanding isn't quite there. You tend to find we do this more on threads about important issues than we do on general threads. So with the name change, the stadium ownership, Barmby being sacked, Pearson going, the Allam's takeover the moderation becomes more about avoiding the wrong impression of events being accidentally given to readers than anything else, where normally it's just about making sure people don't go too far with what they're saying/doing. We also tend to let emotions run a bit higher at those times as we realise it's not a standard debate the team for the next game type of situation (think back to the divide on here after Barmby's sacking). Essentially when the details are being discussed the board becomes more of a news service with comments than a place to discuss hypotheticals, and that's for the benefit of people who use these sites for information.

Clearly there's a conflict in that between us letting the Di Canio/facism discussion to occur and it deviate into Italian lower league football, but that's not something that could cause confusion as to what is actually happening on the issue.

At least one of the deleted posts was you agreeing with what he'd just said, so posting he was deleting it because he disagreed with it isn't really a fair reflection. If we were going to moderate like that on here we'd delete the criticisms of the moderating as well, but if there's ever been an issue we've been quite happy to explain why we've done what we've done and take on board any changes that the forum as a whole wants us to make if the situation occurs in future.

If you read my reply to Mel at the start of this post I think I've explained what's been behind it in a bit more detail than Dutch did earlier. Like I say, I wasn't involved in the deleting of it, and I've not spoken to the other mods about it. I've just come on here, looked at what's been deleted, and thought about why I would remove those posts if I chose to do so.

If that hasn't covered it for you, please raise your concerns either by PM or on a new thread so that this can remain on topic (even if that topic has now gone the way of being about Italian lower league football). I would have done the same with this, but I felt I should address the suggestion that was made about why it had been deleted in the same place it was raised, and separating out those posts onto a new thread would have been really untidy. As I've seen on the mod board your forum has different views on whether it is right for a moderator to edit/rename posts to ours I'll inform you now, our forum rules say we can change things to ensure content is acceptable to the forum as a whole. If the discussion is carried on on this thread we will move the posts to a seperate thread and edit them so that it makes sense (content won't be affected, but clearly the opening post at least needs to explain it's come from another thread rather than being random).