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Musty - at the moment the parachute payments for relegation from the Prem amount to £59M paid over four years as long as the relegated team fails to make it back up in that time.

The first year's payment is £23M with the rest spread over the other 3 years. If a club makes it back to the Prem within that time, it forfeits any remaining unpaid years of parachute payments it would have been entitled to. If a club comes back down again, the 4 year cycle starts again.

However, I believe there was a move by the Prem clubs earlier this season to get that altered to £60M paid over just 2 years at £30M per year from next year. Don't know if that's been ratified or not yet, but £30M a year for 2 years is big punch in the wallet if you drop through the trap door for a club like Burnley.
 
I think when we went into admin our debt was somewhere about the 275k figure. Its mental considering how minute this figure is in todays game. 1 televised premier league game brings in over 800k in tv money alone!
To go into admin over such a small amount shows how much **** we really were in. You guys might say we are boring now, but id take boring every day of the week to avoid being in that sort of state again <ok>
 
mustyfrog said:
thanks sparkey, might be better for a club to go up and down, interesting
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It might seem so musty, it is a lot of money, but it's a lot less than the income received if you stay up there.

Even us who finished in rock bottom spot and got relegated earned over £62M for that one Prem season, and at least the same would have been guaranteed for this year if we'd stayed up.

You Swans got £75M for finishing 12th last year - that's pretty decent dosh.
 
Same old same old. All conjecture about "what would have happened if"..... blah, blah.

The (fluke) Man City win came far too early in that second game - without those 3 points we'd probably have been in the bottom three all season and we were getting worse.

We were going through the motions well before the eventual stuffing by Southampton which preceded "you know what", and that game wasn't the watershed for the season, just more evidence that we'd been sussed and were going down the pan.

The appointment of OGS in January to pull it back was a wild card that bombed big time. A s**t poor appointment that definitley cost us our place in the Prem regardless of whether the previous regime could have kept us up. Tan has sinced distanced himself from that and Dalman was saddled the blame. I suspect had it worked out, Tan would have claimed the credit.

As it is, Tan now claims to have put Slade in there himself, though if it goes wrong I'd expect Roeder will be cited as responsible - such is life.

Maybe we can put this stuff behind us now and go forward respecting that no one actually knows "what might have been" - it's all guesswork.
 
Happy to put the past behind us Spark but fluke? Really? We had a squad brimming with confidence at the start of last season and took Citeh to the cleaners. It was that confidence and strenghth of character that would have seen us survive come the final stages. Like you say though we will never know thanks to Tan.

Wiffle
The attractive football thing was a misquote by the way. It was meant to be inactive.
 
Bob - we didn't take Citeh to the cleaners - they were streets ahead of us all over the park except in front of goal. Kompany was out injured and the rest of their defence went missing for those set pieces - that was the only thing that secured the 3 points.

To say we were a squad brimming with confidence is a stretching the truth. We had an eye-watering lesson in the first game just before that from West Ham. We were made to look like amateurs by a club that eventually struggled almost as much as us during the season. Even Bellamy was crap in that one because of the defensive expectations placed on him - he just couldn't do it.

I agree that any team spirit and strength of character we did have evaporated under Ole, but it was sagging before he was brought on the scene. You're right about never knowing now because of Tan, but the assumption that without the manager change we would have been OK is getting a bit boring.
 
Is that the confident side that totally capitulated against Palace? Was outclassed by a **** West Ham side? Sat terrified for 80 minutes against a Villa team that looked like it couldn't score in a brothel.

Sorry but I've never had a pair of specs with that level of rose tint.

The quote about the league table is correct but has been shortened, it should read "The league table doesn't lie at the end of the season". Mid way through it can be very deceptive as I'm sure us and Wigan will prove. You lads got your money on Saints for the Champions league places then?
 
Oldsparkey said:
Bob - we didn't take Citeh to the cleaners - they were streets ahead of us all over the park except in front of goal. Kompany was out injured and the rest of their defence went missing for those set pieces - that was the only thing that secured the 3 points.

To say we were a squad brimming with confidence is a stretching the truth. We had an eye-watering lesson in the first game just before that from West Ham. We were made to look like amateurs by a club that eventually struggled almost as much as us during the season. Even Bellamy was crap in that one because of the defensive expectations placed on him - he just couldn't do it.

I agree that any team spirit and strength of character we did have evaporated under Ole, but it was sagging before he was brought on the scene. You're right about never knowing now because of Tan, but the assumption that without the manager change we would have been OK is getting a bit boring.
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They were not streets ahead of us all over the park.

Marshall is miles better than Hart , our team defended much better than theirs did.

We did what we were good at. Defended well and exploited a dodgy keeper and on the day a ropey defence at set pieces.

On the day the result was no fluke.
 
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