Things are rarely simple, although actions can be over complicated. Rotherham is a meaningless fixture, Bruce has sorted that out; the play-off is important. Results show that protest is useful, it would be a great assist for Bruce and the lads. The reality is a call for boycott would never be supported, as folk simply don't care enough to do that. Not joining the Scheme has a whole different set of reasons. A boycott is pointed and clear.
There are lots of things we don't know for certain, but we can make reasonable assumptions. We don't know for certain a boycott won't be well supported, but it's reasonable to assume it won't. The Allams have used corporates in the past to support their arguments, so it's worth a try to see if them opposing it has similar credence. Where's the harm in trying?
It's incredible and pathetic in equal measure at times isn't it. People taking sides based on user names rather than issues. You can write the list of who "likes" certain opinions and who tries to fan the flames before replying and be reasonably accurate no matter what the facts. Anyway, credit to PLT for asking for suggestions, hopefully this interruption is sorted, and hasn't side tracked it too far.
People heading to the posh seats took red cards on Tuesday. They were supportive of the protest & highly critical of the scheme. I can only presume that after taking the red cards they also held them up.
My suggestion before was some sort of abuse of MKM as he's on the board, I think. He wont like that and can exert pressure. Not sure who else is but target them. **** em.
Okey doke. I already am to some extent by offering positive suggestions to the trust, as requested. I'll happily contribute to a banner, if someone in that area would like to take it in.
I'm certain that many held them up. The pictures clearly show that it was at least as well backed there as elsewhere in the ground. I'm suggesting perhaps something more, as that area is one the Allams seem to lay more store by.
It was a poorly veiled attack and you know it, at least have the honesty to admit it. Yes, all support against the Scheme's concept and implementation should be welcome. Sponsors will talk directly and discreetly, unless it becomes too bad. Corporate members have their own choices, which I am sure they are aware of and I agree their collective voice would be effective.
How about getting people to remain on the concourse until the game kicks off. Let it start with an empty stadium.
I don't know about abuse, but what about a polite request for a comment on their views of the scheme?
Was it ****. If I wanted to "attack" him, I'd just do it. Why the **** wouldn't I? Have a read, it was a simple suggestion for discussion from me. I agree with the rest mind,
I think a boycott of the home play off leg, although impractical, would have a bigger impact in the media. For one, the attendance figure can't be fudged to include ST holders. In reality I don't think it would muster support from the masses. Too many of the PLWs would be clambering aboard in the hope of securing a Wembley ticket by attending. I also think asking people to boycott games could gain negative attention for the Trust, if the request came from them.
Stop trying to lump sponsors and corporates together, there's only a handful of sponsors , there's a couple of thousand corporates and the corporates have never been used to support the Allams. Corporate fans are just fans, they pay more for padded seats, car parking and the use of a lounge, but they're still just fans the same as everyone else. They are no more respected by the Allams than anyone else, they've never influenced the owners, nor been 'wheeled out' to support anything. I assume that this nonsense has nothing to do with me being a corporate member and I'm sure everyone else thinks likewise.
What could go on banners? It probably needs a degree of sensitivity because of his illness, but prior to that, there's irony in calling for a boycott of games that the chairmen are already boycotting.
Not everything on here is about you. It's not nonsense. Money seems to be a big motivator, as does prestige with "non-hooligan" people. It strikes me that there's a possibility of an efficient way of targeting both. If that's more than one group, so much the better.
Let's give the Allams some credit. They really know how to keep the fans united. Ambassadors of unity. Even if we are united against them.
What about an announcement on the Trust website urging all Trust members and all Hull City fans to boycott MKM. Follow it up on Twitter urging people to pass it on(or whatever its called on Twitter). Same with the other Board members with their business'. It doesnt matte if no one does boycott them but the they wont like the negative publicity and will get drawn into the debate.
