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Should we sign one or two Centre Backs this window?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Saints_Alive, Jul 30, 2020.

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1 or 2 CBs

  1. One

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  2. Two

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    32.4%
  3. Buy one and loan one

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  4. Promote an academy player

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  1. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Want want want! :emoticon-0105-wink:

    I agree you need competition, but

    The issue is not what we want but what we can get
    Its one thing getting Salisu because he's expecting plenty of game time, but if we try and get someone else of his alleged standard then 2 CBs are going to be seeing a lot of the bench and we can't keep players happy that way the same as City etc where they have the recompense of getting extraordinarily rich and winning stuff

    Also, how do you offer real youth development when there's 2 'senior' players for every position, they'll never get a game

    Salisu and a good development CB woukd put enough pressure on the incumbents

    (and let's face it Jack & Bednarek have been great with no-one to put the pressure on them)
     
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  2. SaintinNZ

    SaintinNZ Well-Known Member

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    Sign salisu plus one other, possibly older experienced head. Sell vesty and hoedt.
     
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  3. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    only if the development CB is good enough
     
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  4. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    This has been one of the fundamental tensions on here for years: opinion seems to whipsaw between "two senior players (minimum) at every position!" to "16 senior players is enough!" and back again regularly.
     
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  5. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    Then sign a talented youngster in that 18-20 range who can get development games but also serve to challenge the first team. Not a mid-20s regular starter which will cost far more and where it's a virtual guarantee that there will be a wantaway within months.
     
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  6. fatletiss

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    a compromise - like it.




    Even if it is still signing an extra CB :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  7. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Slightly on a tangent, but I’d actually prefer the rules to be something like the latter. Smaller squads which would dictate more youngsters having to come through, but they aren’t the rules yet. Sadly.
     
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  8. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Exactly my point :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  9. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    Heh, in general I think that's the best use of any 'bonus' resources we have: if we believe in our Academy and scouting, spend to supplement it. Talented pre-breakout players are relatively cheap and your hit rate doesn't need to be particularly high for it to be a boon both competitively and for our bank balance.

    We have begun to do so with Jankewitz and Klarer and supposedly Jeremi Rodriguez, but there's no such thing as too much good young talent.
     
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  10. SaintsFan86

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    We should PiP Everton of the signed of Ivanavic for a year, Can cover RB and CB.. Wont be begging for loads of cash, And has experieince... Also prob be happy to be 4th choice at the young age of 36.
     
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  11. Saints_Alive

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    I've just checked and all the other clubs in the PL had 4 senior CBs last season, I don't see why we would be the only club that fails to keep them all happy.
    I'm not against Alfie Jones or Klarer being promoted to the squad if Ralph feels that either is ready.
     
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  12. Saints Fan4Life

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    We kinda need someone in the Stephens or Bednarek role from a few years ago.

    Someone who isn't yet ready to start on a regular basis, but bring them in to develop them and over time, work the way up and into the team.
     
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  13. Paddy Podped

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    I suspect they hoped that would turn out to be Danso if they'd wanted to sign him permanently
     
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  14. Lovelocum

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    We should buy 5.
     
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  15. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    I had to look at the title twice because I thought it said "Should we sign ine or two All Blacks!" Pity Clive is no longer involved!! Perhaps SFC could become a sporting franchise as there are hordes of rugby fans on the South Coast and not a top club in sight.

    Back to the question. Take away the Leicester and Liverpool hammerings, was the SFC defence that bad? No would be My answer.
     
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  16. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Interesting. But what standard were their 3rd and 4th choices?

    The bottom 5 all shipped more goals than us despite ‘the game that shall not speak its name’ and the top 6 all got criticised for central defensive frailties when their 1st choices weren’t available
     
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  17. Itchen Masack

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    Sign as many defenders as it takes to prevent Vestergaard getting on the pitch please! Since Ralph abandonned the 3 CB formation we've mostly looked good in defence.

    Bednarek and Stevens are good enough, hopefully the new guy will be too. The Danish lamp post fills me with dread every single time he ambles onto the pitch.
     
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  18. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, i'll be a bit peeved if Vester starts next season using up a valuable squad position.
     
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  19. SaintInKuwait

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    I’ve always felt that 2 at every position is a mistake for clubs our size. Especially if you rate any of your young players. It leaves a slim pathway for academy players to develop and then either become valuable assets for sale or useful players in the squad. Looking at previous comments I think for us Ralph said he wanted a first team squad of 18-20. Of course that would probably be bigger if we’re in Europe, but we’re not, so it isn’t. I think it’s one in for a start. Two if we also sell Vestergaard.
     
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  20. fatletiss

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    which is what I have said at the start. Let’s hope it happens.
     
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