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Should Steve Bruce stay?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Craigo, Sep 12, 2015.

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Is it time for Bruce to go?

  1. Bruce out

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  2. Bruce stays

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  1. lakesideview

    lakesideview Active Member

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    We are 6th and falling,we have to win away at Cardiff to halt falling further. Don't hold your breath.
     
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  2. Qatartiger Cambridgetiger

    Qatartiger Cambridgetiger Well-Known Member

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    If you look at the Fulham game. we looked good in the first half very promising but second half looked a totally different team. That was one of our better performances.
     
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  3. Polly13

    Polly13 Well-Known Member

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    FFS, give it till Christmas at least before you start calling for his head. Some of you lot represent everything that is embarrassing about fickle support.
     
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  4. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    It's reasonable to give him until Christmas, but looking back across the last 20-30 games, it doesn't make for pleasant reading. We went into decline before the FA Cup final and didn't really recover and it doesn't look any better two years later. We might be 6th in the league, but we just lost to a team that finished 20th last season in a division below us and that's not good. Even in the games we've won this season, we've not looked anywhere near as good as we know we can play.

    Do we wait to see if a damaging trend develops and sack him at Christmas, give him the season and call this "a season of adjustment" or sack him now and get somebody in to buck the performances up and get more from the players?

    Of course we could start winning games on Tuesday, but you have to admit, it's not looking very likely.
     
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  5. Polly13

    Polly13 Well-Known Member

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    This is what I mean about the attitude here. We're 6 games into the season with a squad that's undergone a few changes and is still getting to grips with one another. The idea that winning on Tuesday is "not looking likely" is just pathetic.
     
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  6. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Said it before but no one knows how this squad are behaving. Bruce could be trying to keep a lid on it all.
    Footballers having their wages cut, ye that'll go down well. Try motivating anyone who's just had their wages cut in half.
     
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  7. Brucebones

    Brucebones Well-Known Member

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    I can see both sides TBH, but I think he'll turn it round, if not I really hope he walks before he's pushed!
     
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  8. Brucebones

    Brucebones Well-Known Member

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    The promise of a wage rise should be enough, I don't necessarily like my job but I'll do it to the best of my ability even if I'm getting screwed over for something!
     
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  9. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    In a thread full of reasons why Bruce should go your only response is;
    He's the manager - get behind him
    We're only 6 games into the season
    We're in 6th spot
    The team are still gelling

    How about explaining why Bruce is a manager who will get the most out of our players and make us into a feared attacking team??????
     
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  10. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    I'm not looking at it from a 6 game season point of view, I'm looking at it from the end of the 2014-15 season and how ****e our performances have been. With the players we have now, we shouldn't be playing in the manner that we are now. Not even close. Players like Diame, Huddlestone Robertson et al are good players and we've seen evidence of that, yet they're underperforming in a team largely made up of players that all came down together.

    We shouldn't be losing to teams that finished 20th in the league last year, hell, we shouldn't even be struggling against the teams that finished top 10. Had yesterday been a cup game, people would have been annoyed that we'd been knocked out by weaker opposition, so why is it suddenly unacceptable to criticise the performances now? We struggled past Accrington and Rochdale in the cup, lost to Charlton and Brighton and got mediocre wins against Fulham, Huddersfield and Preston, as well as a totally avoidable draw against Wolves. I'm not panicking because frankly I knew if we wouldn't make a change at the top, nothing would change at the bottom and I was sort of hoping a drop in level would help the players get some confidence building wins.
     
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  11. look_back_in_amber

    look_back_in_amber Well-Known Member

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    Bang on.
     
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  12. Polly13

    Polly13 Well-Known Member

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    "With the players we have now, we shouldn't be playing in the manner that we are now."

    That's a complete value judgement. Everything you moaners say is based on one thing and one thing alone; your pessimism.
     
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  13. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    So you don't think the team we have now has been underperforming?

    I'm not a moaner and I'm not pessemistic. I'm trying to be realistic and I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen of the team. Can I ask what you're basing your tiger striped optimism on?
     
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  14. Polly13

    Polly13 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it's based on sheer partisanship. Rationality plays no part in supporting your team; leave that **** to the neutrals.
     
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  15. Qatartiger Cambridgetiger

    Qatartiger Cambridgetiger Well-Known Member

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    To start with polly I am a very optimistic person, I have to be. I have said that i voted to keep Steve Bruce but it is becoming increasingly difficult to say why we should keep him. Lets just say my optimism is been tested atm and has been over the last 12 months or so.
     
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  16. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    So you can't be a rational football fan if you follow a team? You can't constructively criticise performances/management decisions because....what? It's a slur against the good name of Hull City FC, by far the greatest team the world has ever seen?

    I think rational analysis of a game gives your opinion a better grounding. It's no good supporting a team through highs and lows if you don't know or understand why they're experiencing those moments.
     
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  17. Polly13

    Polly13 Well-Known Member

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    It just does my head in. Your football team is your side of the war, and support - to me - is based on that whole, fundamental, idea of who you'd want alongside you in the trenches. I wouldn't want pissers and moaners.
     
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  18. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    But football isn't war though, is it? For football to be like war, the losing team would end up dead or worse. It's just a sport. All this bollocks about "it shows who you'd want next to you in the trenches"; who'd you rather have, a calculating, rational thinking soldier who knows how to analyse a situation or one that just fanatically runs into the line of fire singing God save the Queen? In case you had forgotten, the point of war is to win with as little casualties as possible, it isn't a competition to see how moronically patriotic somebody can be.

    And if you don't like people who moan, you wouldn't have lasted 2 seconds in The Great War. After getting gassed to buggery, it was pretty much all there was to do.
     
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  19. Polly13

    Polly13 Well-Known Member

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    Feel free to continue with your pointless analysis. Night.
     
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  20. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    Feel free to come up with a suitable riposte to my point instead of ducking out because you can't think of a reason I'm wrong.

    Night sweetheart. Big kiss.
     
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