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Red Robin

Red Robin

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Today was the day I really doubt if we have the right man in charge.
LJ does not have a clue what his best team or line up is,again he played a very poor Joe Bryan,over the more solid Scott Goulbourne.
The one up front scenario clearly is not working,yet he perseveres with it.
We have a nineteen year old lad that is clearly struggling to hit the net.Then we have a 37 year old that he relies on when things are not going right.A relegation battle is defiantly on the cards.
 
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Although I never get to see a live game it is evidently clear that Lee is not up to the job and I will never understand why he was hired in the first place. He was yet another example of a copout by Lansdown (either one) and for a man who is successful in every other aspect of his business it is quite shocking how bad he is at selecting a manager who can achieve the targets he himself has set out. Finally we have a stadium worthy of the name but regrettably we are a long way away from putting a squad together that can do it justice.

Lee is a League One manager at best, and if Lansdown only hires yes men then he is barking up the wrong tree yet again which is proven by the comments I read on this site all season. What a waste of resources from the summer business we did, which gave an optimistic outlook on our future, only to be dashed by team selections combined with ludicrous tweets and the usual codswallop from an organisation well known for averageness. Who knows where we go from here but it makes the contract extension given to Lee look totally ridiculous and I suppose it's only a matter of time before the vote of confidence comes from the boardroom, which I reckon takes the paying public for mugs.

Get a set of balls someone.
 
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Are the rest of the usual suspects drowning their sorrows with a pint or 12 RR? I can't wait to see if the general trend is the same as ours or whether we will get stick for our negativity but in reality something has to happen.
 
invermeremike said:
Are the rest of the usual suspects drowning their sorrows with a pint or 12 RR? I can't wait to see if the general trend is the same as ours or whether we will get stick for our negativity but in reality something has to happen.
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It will be interesting to see their views Mike,for me it clearly is not working under the LJ way.
He comes over very stubborn and naive.
 
Red Robin said:
Today was the day I really doubt if we have the right man in charge.
LJ does not have a clue what his best team or line up is,again he played a very poor Joe Bryan,over the more solid Scott Goulbourne.
The one up front scenario clearly is not working,yet he perseveres with it.
We have a nineteen year old lad that is clearly struggling to hit the net.Then we have a 37 year old that he relies on when things are not going right.A relegation battle is defiantly on the cards.
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Text my mate the result of this game before it kicked off and got dragged out Christmas shopping. Its so predictable you do not even need to go now, to know the outcome. It clearly is LJs fault for persisting with a formation that has not been working for weeks. Too many players have no end product to their game and need to be moved on. I was always told football is a simple game, pass and move. We cannot do either effectively and have added p-ss poor finishing to the list. Unless there are major incomings in Jan we are in big trouble.
 
Red Hub said:
Text my mate the result of this game before it kicked off and got dragged out Christmas shopping. Its so predictable you do not even need to go now, to know the outcome. It clearly is LJs fault for persisting with a formation that has not been working for weeks. Too many players have no end product to their game and need to be moved on. I was always told football is a simple game, pass and move. We cannot do either effectively and have added p-ss poor finishing to the list. Unless there are major incomings in Jan we are in big trouble.
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So so slow going forward,being caused by the team formation, and set up.
No outlet with one up top,LJ persona on the videos tonight shows a man under stress and pressure now.
Will he survive on current stats not a chance in hell.
 
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P.S. I got the score right EH. Do the right thing Lee and if you're not sure what that is then just read the feedback from the supporters. Sorry lad but those are the facts of life in the game of results.
 
Just as bad as Tuesday, we were brilliant for the first 20 minutes, they then have their first real attempt at goal and score then the tide turns, bloody useless, really slow moving the ball around and going forward at a snails pace. Players definately low on confidence as was plain to see when they went ahead 1-0, this can't keep happening otherwise we'll be in the ****
 
Red Robin said:
Today was the day I really doubt if we have the right man in charge.
LJ does not have a clue what his best team or line up is,again he played a very poor Joe Bryan,over the more solid Scott Goulbourne.
The one up front scenario clearly is not working,yet he perseveres with it.
We have a nineteen year old lad that is clearly struggling to hit the net.Then we have a 37 year old that he relies on when things are not going right.A relegation battle is defiantly on the cards.
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Joe Bryan may have been the best player on the pitch for the first twenty minutes.
 
You were great for 20 minutes but once we scored heads dropped and we should have been out of sight by half time.
Second half you were better and looked the only winner once the ancient one had scored, slight fluke for the winner as Johnson does not use his left foot.
Did see an earlier post about slow build up, it was correct we rarely lose to teams who play with passing it out from the back.
Seasons compliments
 
We battered them for the first 20 mins, could have had a penalty and maybe should have and then some poor defending let them in with a goal.
We have seen it before, our confidence levels seem to get shot. Cant understand why.

Then it was back to same old, same old. Slow, predictable and ineffective. We seem to have a majority opinion about one up front, playing Tomlin too deep etc, for me the only 2 players looking to make things happen were Tomlin and Freeman, (quite why he was taken off instead of others was beyond me). Bryan was ok for the first 20 and then might has well not been on the pitch. Pack had a poor one by his standards.

Better finishing from Preston, the game would have been out of sight by half time anyway. Must admit,if I was their Manager, I would get them in for some strength training as the number of times they found it necessary to sit down was beyond a joke.
 
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Joe Bryan may have been the best player on the pitch for the first twenty minutes.
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The odd few minutes are not enough for someone of Joe's talent, cannot believe how poor he is the rest of the time - what the hell's happened to him? looks so uninterested IMO
 
Call me old fashioned, but i never have liked the way the team is run by businessmen, with their pillars and their back thumping. I prefer the old way, where a club is MANAGED by a football guy, normally an ex-player, someone who understands about the players he has in, and knows HOW TO MOTIVATE THEM !
Am I talking about Steve Cotterill ? I think I must be.
After all, we did walk away with League 1 only 2 years ago. I believe we need a Warnock in charge, someone who doesn't always come across as nice but is capable of kicking jacksy.
Someone like LJ's old man in fact, someone who has been successful in the role of manager at Ashton Gate. The question in my head is, does the current system accommodate the kind of manager who can do that to the players, and get a football club "bouncing round the ground" ?
I don't think so, because I believe he will just ruffle too many feathers. So too would Shankly or Fergusson. And can you imaging Brian Clough being popular with the prawn sandwich brigade ? To use a biblical reference, I could imagine a Cloughy throwing the money lenders out of the temple.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting we bring back GJ (or Steve Cotterill), but I am suggesting we should think about reverting to the traditional football manager figure if this season all goes tits-up (which it seems to be doing).

I think all this business psychobabble is just non-football people trying to get a toe in the door of a football club - well its swank factor 9 isn't it. You see it a lot in the world of music, and it is rarely a progressive thing there
I do not include Steve Lansdown (or Mark Ashton) in this group as I see him as a football man, albeit a confused one. But he does still need to prove he can be as successful as a club owner as he was in the psychobabble business.

Its a logical thing. You want your teeth fixed, you go to a dentist. You don't lay down on the desk and ask your lawyer to do it
 
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1) We have no idea why Bryan was selected over Golbourne. Maybe he isn't fully fit for whatever reason.

2) Unfortunately, due to the way the summer panned out, we have to play only 1 up front. Wilbs hasn't got the legs, the Engvall situation is obviously strange, but we simply don't have enough players up front for it. It's the price we have to pay for getting such a stupid amount for Kodjia, which, even in this situation, is still worth it.
 
I think a lot of the squad are low on confidence, the Joe bryan one is strange, completely different player from last season, but we have ALL been saying that our build up play is too sllloooooooowwwwwwwww. When we play at pace with one, two touch we are brilliant but it happens so rarely now, that maybe the cofidence thing too, but we can all see it!
We all get wound up with the side to side across the back thing too, but when we do it, have a look at the complete lack of movement up front, its no wonder we end up pumping it aimlessly forward!
And dont even start me on the lack of width going forward aaarrrgghhhhhh!!!!!!! the first time we did Wilbs scored!, but we do have a lck of men in the box usually too dont we, pah!
 
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