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yellotoyou

yellotoyou

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I see that Deeney got booked following his celebration of his goal yesterday because he took his shirt off. Of course I understand the ref had no option because of the FA/FIFA rules. But again I have to ask why does such a rule exist? Surely even the killjoys and moronic at the FA/FIFA must realise that somethings are beyond 'being in reasonable control' when it comes to ending a game such as we saw yesterday. Common sense must say that such a booking is needless and so far outside the 'spirit of the game' that it belongs in a monestry rather than on a football field. Am I correct in thinking that the reason such a rule exists is because its thought bare chests might offend some viewers. if thats so what do they do when swimming or wrestling or boxing or or or etc etc is on the tele? is it just me who thinks this booking players who take of their shirts in exuberance is an utter nonsense?
 
yellotoyou said:
I see that Deeney got booked following his celebration of his goal yesterday because he took his shirt off. Of course I understand the ref had no option because of the FA/FIFA rules. But again I have to ask why does such a rule exist? Surely even the killjoys and moronic at the FA/FIFA must realise that somethings are beyond 'being in reasonable control' when it comes to ending a game such as we saw yesterday. Common sense must say that such a booking is needless and so far outside the 'spirit of the game' that it belongs in a monestry rather than on a football field. Am I correct in thinking that the reason such a rule exists is because its thought bare chests might offend some viewers. if thats so what do they do when swimming or wrestling or boxing or or or etc etc is on the tele? is it just me who thinks this booking players who take of their shirts in exuberance is an utter nonsense?
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I have heard it explained that, at a time when all cameras are pointed at the scorer, the sponser's name on the shirt is paramount! The FA and FL have introduced this punishment to appease sponsors!
 
yellotoyou said:
is it just me who thinks this booking players who take of their shirts in exuberance is an utter nonsense?
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Not at all - I'm with you on that. Quite why the 'Poleon-against-Anya & Bond' type of offence can be viewed in the same light as a player taking his shirt off is totally beyond me.

Having said that, I've absolutely no idea why players do take their shirts off after scoring a goal - a bit of a nonsense for mine.
 
canary-dave said:
I have heard it explained that, at a time when all cameras are pointed at the scorer, the sponser's name on the shirt is paramount! The FA and FL have introduced this punishment to appease sponsors!
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Right on the money. (ha!)
If Deeney scores the goal that gets us to Wembley, you can be damn sure Football Manager want to be written all over it.
 
It's a pathetic rule and as others have said is there for the sponsors alone - does anyone get booked for it in non league football - assuming anyone there ever took their shirts off - guess we should see if we can find a L*t*n fan to ask :)
 
Leonardo said:
It's a pathetic rule and as others have said is there for the sponsors alone - does anyone get booked for it in non league football - assuming anyone there ever took their shirts off - guess we should see if we can find a L*t*n fan to ask :)
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<laugh> Leo! Oh Lord it's hard to be humble4, when you're perfect in every way!

;)
 
Leonardo said:
It's a pathetic rule and as others have said is there for the sponsors alone - does anyone get booked for it in non league football - assuming anyone there ever took their shirts off - guess we should see if we can find a L*t*n fan to ask :)
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Does it really matter and who cares? Player will take his shirt off and jump into a bus-stop with 3 people in it!
 
yellotoyou said:
I see that Deeney got booked following his celebration of his goal yesterday because he took his shirt off. Of course I understand the ref had no option because of the FA/FIFA rules. But again I have to ask why does such a rule exist? Surely even the killjoys and moronic at the FA/FIFA must realise that somethings are beyond 'being in reasonable control' when it comes to ending a game such as we saw yesterday. Common sense must say that such a booking is needless and so far outside the 'spirit of the game' that it belongs in a monestry rather than on a football field. Am I correct in thinking that the reason such a rule exists is because its thought bare chests might offend some viewers. if thats so what do they do when swimming or wrestling or boxing or or or etc etc is on the tele? is it just me who thinks this booking players who take of their shirts in exuberance is an utter nonsense?
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Maybe it's a rule made for female footballers....:emoticon-0116-evilg
 
Apparently it was after Ryan Giggs scored that brilliant solo effort against Arsenal in the FA cup. Apparently his hairy chest traumatised young viewers!:emoticon-0140-rofl:
 
I would've thought that it was due to some sort of decency thing in certain countries. If was to do with sponsors, wouldn't it be unpunishable in international football? That is unless you count the kit manufacturer as a sponsor.
 
From Law 12: Fouls & Misconduct

Celebration of a goal
While it is permissible for a player to demonstrate his joy when a goal has been
scored, the celebration must not be excessive.
Reasonable celebrations are allowed, but the practice of choreographed
celebrations is not to be encouraged when it results in excessive time-wasting
and referees are instructed to intervene in such cases.

A player must be cautioned if:
• in the opinion of the referee, he makes gestures which are provocative,
derisory or inflammatory
• he climbs on to a perimeter fence to celebrate a goal being scored
• he removes his shirt or covers his head with his shirt
• he covers his head or face with a mask or other similar item
Leaving the field of play to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence in itself
but it is essential that players return to the field of play as soon as possible.
Referees are expected to act in a preventative manner and to exercise common
sense in dealing with the celebration of a goal. (my italics)

So there you have it. It is the same law for everyone (I have cautioned for this myself on at least two occasions) no conspiracy for sponsors, PL or anyone else... it is designed to stop inflammatory situations. Deeney took his shirt off and jumped over the wall into the crowd. You cannot argue with it alas...

That said, the referee did not really excercise much in the way of common sense (we obviously cannot expect Troy to do so... be honest now...) because how anyone could expect anything other than that celebration is beyond me... "over-celebration", just how is that possible? This caution, though correct in law, just serves to highlight the flaws in Mr Osborne's game and every other referee when this easy punishment is given and obvious more important mistakes (like the utterly rubbish penalty decision in the first place) are made. It's not easy for us.
 
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