Sherwood was a dead man walking the day he took the job. So who'll be the next mug to be stitched up by the short-man-syndrome suffering cretin of a Chairman we have? And on and on it goes. The ever revolving door also known as the "Spurs Managers Office". Great... another summer of speculation followed by a season of underachievement and disappointment.
Problem is, a lot of the gobbiness probably means both. Not that he'll worry too much if the alleged 1m payoff is true.
Absolutely. Have a great life that I can't complain about. Just a realist when it comes to football. Not going to delude myself or worry about it. It is what it is and I'm perfectly happy to say how it is.
Come on, we clearly only gave Sherwood the job for the short term. We approached other managers about the job but there weren't the right ones available. Better that we get in a temporary manager and get the right one in the summer than hire a manager that we didn't really want and end up sacking him on a 3/4 year contract. Jol got plenty of time. Ramos was a mistake and got sacked. Redknapp got himself sacked. AVB is the only one I think deserved more time.
You can rightly argue that AVB was given little chance to make his mark but Levy could see what we could see; the utter boredom of his tactics, so I can't blame him for cutting AVB off, in fact I am glad he did tbh. I can't remember the last time I was so uninspired watching a Spurs team, maybe George Graham? The critisism of Levy would be why did he not know how AVB would operate BEFORE he offered him a contract. I suspect he takes advice and if he does he has not had too much success with the advice has he! We really should be making sure that the next man we award a lucrative contract to is at least going to attempt to produce entertaining football.
Personally I don't want to venture down the whole past managers route as I've discussed and argued this 'til I'm blue in the face; hence why I didn't even mention a past manager's name in my comments. What I will say is the constant excuses for our Chairman who's sat in that chair for over 13 years that I hear are wearing very, very thin. All this nonsense about poor advice, inexperience and such, is utter nonsense. If he's not fit to run the club and make informed decisions after that many managers, that many years then there's some serious questions to be asked and my sentiments are echoed throughout the game by those who can show impartiality and objectiveness - not fans who are prone to wearing very rosey tinted specs and constantly spew the whole "oh but he's balanced the books" garbage. I run a business and I know how to balance books. But I know f**k all about running a football club. Likewise, he's the same in my view. He can do a job with the accounts... great. But get some football people in there to run the football side of the club and give us some long awaited stability.
"Come on, we clearly only gave Sherwood the job for the short term." But has he burnt his bridges at Spurs in the long term by the manner he has agreed to take on the role ??
Fla you keep gunning for Levy but I really can't see why. he has done a brilliant financial job and don't forget how we were very unstable when Sugar came in so you cannot ignore the fine job Levy has done in finance. The football side; yes there have been many 'mistakes' but football is as you say not like other businesses. First we do not know who exactly has made the decisions, remembering there is a board that takes collective decisions. In many ways Levy might just be the front man presenting what is a a collective decision. In other words getting rid of Levy (even if that were possible) is not going to solve anything. Second most PL clubs have a similar history to us when it comes to managers in other words it is par for the course to change managers often and without great success. All in all I would rather have Levy than most of the other chairman in the PL. It's not going to improve our chances of gettting the perfect manager; that will be luck, as it was with United & Arsenal. Every team lives in hope of finding their saviour but almost every team panics when the play is wrong or the results start to look iffy. We will solve nothing by losing Levy and we might invite a whole load of financial trouble. It's a game that includes an element of chance, it's unpredictable, there are no easy solutions.
I agree with what you're saying but I felt AVB was starting to turn it around. Against United, Fulham and Sunderland(I think it was) we'd see that he was prepared to open the game up more. Perhaps it was too little too late but I didn't think the terrible result was enough, it was still only one game and three points dropped. Whether the manager deserved to be sacked or not rarely plays into it though and I suppose, had a top manager been available when we sacked AVB then I certainly wouldn't be complaining now. Levy's approach for Ramos whilst Jol was in charge was widely criticised but I suppose as disrespectful to the manager as it is, the problem of sacking a manager and finding no one available is a big problem for a club. As for knowing what we were getting with AVB, I disagree. I thought it was too much of a risk at the time but that's what it was, a risk. He had 3 seasons in football at that time, at his first club he impressed, at Porto he shone destroying scoring records and points records in a treble winning season and at Chelsea he was deemed to have failed, just as Ancellotti had. I saw the logic in it at the time and still do now. Big money clubs like Chelsea, City, United, Real and Barca always have offcuts who are deemed to have not made the grade. We benefitted from it in the past with Van Der Vaart, just like Inter did with Sniejder, AC did with Ibrahimovic, Villareal did with Forlan and Sturridge did with Liverpool. When all these players were signed they went for a premium that the most rich clubs could afford and then left at a cut price, which the more sensibly run clubs couldn't afford but then took advantage of when they were cast aside. Even with Sturridge, who was a few million, Chelsea offered the 18 year old £60k a week and a big signing bonus which even City were not going to match so he was still unaffordable to Liverpool. I still didn't like it as I thought it was too much of a risk but once we went for him I was happy to go along with the plan. Inter won the CL ahead of clubs far outspending them because they picked off the scraps expertly. Sneijder was signed for about half what Real paid for him, they got Eto'o and £30mill for Ibrahimovic and got Mourinho for nothing after he'd fallen out with Chelsea. The 3 most talented components of that side were picked up for about £12mill combined and on top of that Samuel was signed in similar circumstances and, arguably, Cambiasso too. The big money clubs will outspend us in every aspect, from transfer fees to scouting and training facilities so our best chance of competing is in trying to pick up bargains where we can. Van Gaal will definitely be a bargain if we get him this summer, even if AVB wasn't.
Yawn! Perhaps people have shorter memories than I do. If you really want to know why I am gunning for Levy; it possibly has a lot to do with a certain incident that took place in the stands on Thursday, October 25th 2007. We were playing Getafe that night and were losing. Yet our Chairman and chums were all smiles and shaking hands at the sight of our club getting knocked out of the UEFA Cup. It was a disgraceful scene and one that showed the true nature of Levy's personality in full view. It showed a calculated cowardice that doesn't belong in any boardroom and certainly not our club. And he has reaped the rewards ever since. As I said, great at balancing books. But a ****ing lousy Chairman who is trigger happy and power crazed. End of rant.
You have made all sorts of assumptions about the sacking of Martin Jol about what the laughing was about, indeed what the decision was about. I haven't met a Spurs fan who doesn't think that sacking Jol was a poor, unfair, misguided decision but I bet if you asked Levy now he would probably agree. If you are going to base your whole argument on a past cock up then there is lttle point in having the debate because there is no argument I agree with you it was an apalling decision. That was then, this is now.
How can he be a lousy chairman if he's taken us from a club that finished midtable every season to regulars in Europe? In the time he's been in charge Newcastle spent more than us for a period, Villa spend much more than us for a period and even West Ham did too, all over them rose and fell down again. The only sides that have consistently bettered us since we got back into Europe are Liverpool, Arsenal, City, United and Chelsea. All 5 of them have outspent us by hundreds and hundreds of millions in that period. Liverpool have been out of the CL for a few years yet they still outspend us by £20-30mill just in wages, let alone when you factor in transfer fees or the fact they've made £90mill of losses in 2 years. Like it or not, the clubs who spend the most money finish highest. Sure us and Everton can upset the applecart from time to time but to do it regularly you need everything to go right all the time. Levy's not the best chairman in the country but he's certainly one of the best.
The manner of the Jol sacking was appalling but not in terms of a footballing one and I understood why they went for Ramos, in the sense the board wanted to bring in a manager to progress the club as Jol done great job taking us to challengers but lets not pretend he didn't have flaws as I notice there are a section of fans who only say good things about Jol and only say negative things about other managers. Anyhow, the Jol sacking lead to us winning a cup (through Ramos) and then, after the Ramos chaos took us to Redknapp so while the manner of the movement from one coach to another wasn't planned, in reality it ended with us winning a trophy and then we found a manager who could get us top four but because Jol was a gentleman, lets praise him for everything
What are you disagreeing with, I am saying that we should not take such punts if we do not know what to expect. AVB was not a secret was he, we could see at Porto or Chelsea what he was about. Well I couldn't because I am not spending my whle time looking at football but you would expect a professional club to check it out before investing millions and the future of their club in someone.
