Shelvy, has he played his last game?

Points we had up till that game and ratio it to 38 games

 

Like hell was it. He's a very good defender, and I don't give a rats arse about re sale value as I want him here for another 3-4 years alongside Amat when Ash finally calls it time.
As for the cost of selling BR and ML players, we could sell Gylfi and Ayew this summer and get at least £40 million for those two alone.
I'd call Jonjo a Monk player given that he played a lot under him, and we got £12 million there.
That's potentially £50-55million there.

 

Siggy was a player we got for Davies , a player Laudrup brought into the squad and built value in , like Routledge .
Fernandez is ok , but not worth 7 million ...period .
Who brought in Amat on the cheap ?
Ayew is the only good piece of business done , shroud make 9 or so million if he leaves in the summer
Shelvey came in under Laudrup , but nice try ....clutching at straws there man

 

In addition to Ayew, I would argue that Fabianski, Cork & Barrow have been decent acquisitions.

Additionally, Montero has not been too shabby.

 

Laudrup was absolutely useless for the last 18 he was with us and it showed, The players were so frustrated by his over the top egotistic attitude and lack of interest they had no choice than to complain to Jenkins, There was only one way we had been heading for months and with games swiftly running out and not being able to buy a win against anyone then we were heading for certain relegation and Jenkins had no choice but to make changes. When he put Monk in temporary charge then me included was shocked but when you looked closely at the situation why he gave monk the chance of keeping us up then you could see why. Monk had done 2/3rds of his coaching badges already and even though he was still registered as a player he was coaching as well so you could see where Jenkins was coming from appointing someone who knew Swansea inside out and it was a master stroke as we ended the season in 12th place..... Monk had been so impressive he was getting praise from every quarter that Jenkins rewarded him with the managers job and a new contract. Well monks season was a success with some remarkable doubles over some of the biggest and best teams in the premiership and ended the season on 56 points our highest ever total and our highest placing. The football world were so impressed by this new kid on the block that he and the club was praised like no other club with a young English manager who has emerged with so much talent. This sadly for the club and monk is where it all changed due to the underhanded antics of Jenkins and the board that caused and disrupted the manager and the players....The players of any club would always stick by one another and what happened to Dyer had took it's toil and couple that with players brought in over monks head who were not suited by the way monk wanted then rightly monk blew a gasket and confronted Jenkins and the board in a called meeting that monk told them in no uncertain terms he was not happy and had ruined any preparation and harmony built up during his time in charge.....Monk knew from that meeting that his time at the club was at an end as he could not manage the club the way it should be run but he was never going to walk away with nothing......Well we all know how this season have panned out and that is all down to Jenkins and the Board and not the fault of the brightest young manager football has seen for many a year.....

 

Was Gylfi not a player brought in by Monk? Every player that Monk kicked out was replaced and replaced with better imo.

Fabianski for Vorm
Fed for Chico
Gylfi for Michu
Cork for Canas
Barrow/Monty for Pablo
Ki brought back to the club.

 

We will make nothing off of them , you said above you don't care about re sale value ... Well you perfectly aligned with Monk and Huw then

 

We were doing fine up till mid Dec , then at the first sign of trouble ( because of injury , a rapid shedule and top teams in that rapid Shedule ). , Huw ditched Laudrup after the West Ham game when Laudrup could have got us back on track in League and still had us in both Cups . Huw knew Monk had an eased schedule , healthy players and lesser teams to play when he pulled his " Con " on Laudrup ......almost blew it too , he had no idea Monk could sh:t the bed so bad with such an easy scenario to " Prop " his controllabie manager into .

 

Ayew is easily a £20 million player
Cork is a £10-£15 million player (factor prices for Joe and Jonjo)
Barrow could end up easily £20-£30 million in the future if his development continues as is.
If we sold Gylfi in the summer he'd command £15-£20 million.
Ash would command £5-£10 million if he went.

 

Siggy was traded for a player that had no value till Laudrup got his hands on Davies .
Siggy was brought in for a player Laudrup made , who might have languished like Routledge doing little , if Laudrup hadn't made them who they are

 

Those injured players returning would have needed 3-4 games before being fully match fit not to mention the huge split in the dressing room.

 

Need to try much better than this roof.

 

Man , your so full of it valley ,
We will get our money back for Barrow , Cork and Montero .
Anything we get for Siggy will be because of the sale of Davies to get him
What's Ash got to do with Monk ?
Any money we get for Ayew , he will get about half IMO .

 

Roof - please show me where I have stated that I don't care about re sale value?

 

Laudrup was forced to play Ben because Taylor broke his leg - and the transfer window had closed. Don't forget, Laudrup then signed the out of contract Tiendalli.

Ben took his chance and Tiendalli was no great shakes.

If we sell Siggy for more than we paid for him, well that's good business.

 

1. We would make a huge profit on these three.
2. Gylfi wrap was valued at £10 million - Gylfi is now worth at least £20 million = Another profit
3. We would make a significant profit on Ayew too. Hell, Villa paid £10 million for his brother - That would put Ayew in the £25 million bracket, easy.

So much for not making a profit on Monks players.

 

He's mistaken you for me regarding Feds re sale value here.

 

Sorry Taff , meant for valley from fantasy land .
We made actually profit from Rodgers , Sinclair , Allen , Bony (and 10 million from Davies if you want take Siggy as Monks player ) that's about 60 million of REAL profit , not what they were sold for PROFIT .
None all your " Fantasy " sales haven't happened .
18 we will get for Ayew , he will receive half .
Siggy (Paid 10 million for )
Barrow ( not sure )
Montero ( 4 million for)
Cork ( 5 million for )
What we sell these players for we will see when they are sold , but your " Fantasy " money is a bit of a laugh
Montero , Cork and Barrow have 2 goals between them over all their Premier League minutes , hardly bringing down the house . These 3 players probably cost about 14 million , anything we receive above that will be profit .
And they are barely first team players , Like Naughton .
Anything over 10 million will be profit for Siggy , we should make 4 or 5 million .
Your value numbers are a laugh valley.
Then there is Ederand Tabanou's loss .
Naughton , Barrow , Cork , Montero , Eder , Tabanou , are all collecting good wages also , and playing only here and there ... Some not at all

 

I will ask one question roof, if we go down whose fault is it. I bet you wont say Guidolin, I didn't want Monk in charge, but you can not argue he got the job done. It doesn't matter who we played, we have dropped points against a Palace side who haven't won a game in 13. Both will have done what is asked of them. do or did I want either in charge of our squad a big no.

 

Roof, you are the one who has stated as fact that we will not make any profit on Monks players.
My figures are on what could potentially happen in the future and based on transfers over the past few years.
I know you like buying cheap players and selling them on for a profit, but when we buy good players like Fab, Fed, Cork, Monty, Ayew, Gylfi etc, I couldn't give a toss about re sale value as I want these players here until they are no longer good enough for this level. I'd happily see us spend £20 million on a 28/29 year old striker this summer if he is good enough to get us 20 odd goals in the league next season.
Yes we've lost on Tabanou, but plenty of us on here we're excited at the prospect of him signing. Sometimes signings don't work, that's the way it goes.