Karl Berg, man of letters? Contributor to many ( all) Hull City fanzines, including Hull, Hell @ Happiness when it was voted the best fanzine in Britain by readers of Follow, Follow, ( Rangers) the most read fanzine in the country? At a time, by the way, when the club were floundering at the bottom of the FL ladder watched by two men and a dog? No-one would want to read what he wrote surely? Perhaps Amin Arrears could enlighten us to where else his literary scribblings could be seen besides the walls of his nearest gents urinal, along with his mobile number? Mentioned in despatches from those fun packed fanzine frenzy days are Paul Lighthouse, The Outlaw Joesy Wales, Tom Watson who used to answer a Mr Holmes in the HDM, One Man Clapping ( he wrote some good stuff, some of which was actually true) The legendary, in his dreams, Bill Bore, and Hull's answer to Marjorie Proops ( ask your dads) Auntie Social. The memories, the fun, the insults, the getting thrown out of Don Robinson's office, those were the days..............
Been there, done that, just off the coast from Monaco harbour, a delightful day if I remember correctly.
I have a re-read of the various fanzines now and again. Amber Nectar, 'City would be mad to leave Boothferry Park'. David Burns. The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
If you really want to cheer yourself up dig out the Hull Fc 'In any kind of weather' fanzine written by Vince Groak and his mates. Some classics in there, like, 'Hull City will never fill a 25,000 stadium' and 'If the council really want to fill a 25,000 capacity stadium they will have to get Leeds United to play there'.....'More chance of finding life on the moon then the Tiggers ( as they called us) reaching the Premier League' etc etc etc. Talk about kicking a man when they are down, like they did, through print on a weekly basis when City were really down on their knees. Utter contempt for them then as now. And who was it who managed to get included in the ten best memories of the boulevard the classic........'The 880 crowd v Huyton'? Surely no-one who posts on here?
OK I'll give it a go. There has been loads of speculation, rumours and second hand news that Acun has lost interest, going bust, stopping putting money in, looking to sell, looking for an investor among other things. On the other hand, we have a new pitch, some safe standing, re jigged the exits to stop the mass on screen rush to leave the south east corner, another fans trip to Turkey, finally got a recognised striker, brought in loads of other players (some highly rated) some younger for developing. All costs which didn't have to be incurred if the first part of my reply was anywhere near accurate.
Sorry bud, it has to be all negative from now on. Its been the theme for a few months. Good post, but the standard response to it will be that you think the owner can do no wrong - of which you've said nothing of the sort. You're genuinely wasting your time bothering. Also, you shouldn't have mentioned the trip to Turkey. That one's a proper trigger.
Didn't have to be, but would have put the club in an even worse position if they didn't happen, bar the exits and standing, plus lots of what has been said isn't secondhand news, for example the looking for an inverter is fact, us having money problems is also a fact
Well my reply wasn't to you but thanks for joining in. If positive news is on a near daily basis then that's not much, particularly if you're having to include a (carefully selected) fans' trip to Turkey. Are you seriously including transfers? Our transfer business is good, considering the restrictions, so positive in that sense. But it's not positive if you consider we wouldn't have those restrictions if the club wasn't being so badly mismanaged. Bless you for trying though.
All but a handful of the 92 league clubs are running at a loss, they all have money problems and I suppose they would all like an investor to cover the losses for a while. We are not unique.
We've been given a multi transfer window ban on signing players for a few... How many clubs have this?
As far as the debt goes you will be hard pushed to find any investor actually using their own money and losing it . They will stand surety for loans and pay the interest at a push but gone are the days when some rich local will fund a club directly from his pocket . The sums are too vast , players wages too high and as most good size companies are multi shareholder owned when a company gets big , those people would not vote collectively to fund a ‘hobby’ . So to me rightly or wrongly Acun has done what others commonly do and that’s borrow to run the club but ultimately the club owes him or the banks a sizeable sum to do this . Any owner has to have the assets to give bank assurances .
Just two at the moment I believe. Interestingly though many clubs have been given a points deduction for financial irregularities. May have been better not to pay up all together rather than pay up late. https://www.footballsite.co.uk/DYK/DYK29-PointsDeductions.htm
If I recall correctly GFAW was an arch defender of the Allams until very very late in the day, then had some kind of epiphany, then became vociferously anti Allam (well, on forums I read at least). Kind of like Italy in WW2.
92 clubs aren't under EFL sanction, are they? The losses aren't the issue. The owners ability to cover them, despite being of his own making has been.
Are you saying that GFAW ousted Mussolini and signed an Armistice? Or that after Italy signed the Armistice, GFAW invaded and occupied North Italy? To be honest, GFAW wants to see evidence that Acun has no money and cited the increased wage bill as evidence that Acun is spending money .... Other than a delayed payment to another club, since rectified, and a milkman not getting paid, there's no actual evidence, other than an extrapolated theory, that City are in that much of a different position from the majority of the professional clubs. I have no clue or opinion either way, but he's entitled to his opinions - Howden and Jim might have inside access to Acun's inner circle and secret information proving their theories but until they present it, GfAW doesn't want to take their assurances. Just a difference of opinion.
Milkperson* I will give you the benefit of the doubt that it was an honest mistake so will leave it at that.
Off the line has probably already sent him a P.M asking him to retract it as it's harmful to milkmen...In fact he's probably now claiming its antisemitic,even though the milkman/person is Palestinian
