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sectarian singing

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Girvan Loyal 1690, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. DevAdvocate

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    Leader columns of newspapers in the 1960s featured the term in relation to teenage gang violence.[6] In a 1962 book the crime writer and broadcaster Bill Knox referred to stolen cars turning up after having been taken "by a bunch of neds who want transport for some house-breaking job". He publicised the term more widely in his 1970s police report series Crimedesk, made and broadcast by STV.[3] In his 1975 novel Rally to Kill, Knox described "neds" as Glasgow's "tag for small-time hoodlums", saying that "neds" and their families from the Gorbals had been rehoused elsewhere in the city, "taking their violence with them to the new areas".[7] A 1982 analysis of crime fiction notes Knox's 1977 novel Pilot Error describing Strathclyde Police as being unconcerned about "neds" getting hurt in a fight as long as no-one else is affected, and translates the term as "Glasgow slang for hoods".[8]

    One folk etymology for Ned is that it stands for "Non-Educated Delinquent," a backronym which arose long after the word "ned" came into use.[13] In 2003, the Scottish Socialist Party MSP Rosie Kane tabled a question to the Scottish Parliament condemning use of the word "ned", which she said was degrading and insulting to young people as it stood for non-educated delinquent.[14]
     
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    In 2001 the word ned entered the Concise Oxford Dictionary, defined as a hooligan or petty criminal, a stupid or loutish boy or man.
     
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  4. DevAdvocate

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    Who grassed Rangers up?

    http://www.philmacgiollabhain.com/958/

    <laugh>

    Looks like Baldy Bain was wrong again?

    "the UEFA match delegate for the Rangers v PSV Eindhoven will be Mr. William Campbell from Northern Ireland"
     
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  5. EDGE

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    Phil ManGobblegiver <laugh>

    The unemployed journalist?

    <laugh>
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

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    He was correct though? Maybe UEFA did appoint Mr Campbell for this specific purpose?
     
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  7. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    Anport actually owned me on this one :embarrassed:

    glad to see the lazio fans getting done. Nazi flags? come off it.

    also what songs from the Rangers songbook are classed as sectarian? or what songs are banned by UEFA?
     
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  8. RebelBhoy

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    Have a wild guess
     
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  9. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    I dont know that's why I'm asking. Also why are they banned?
     
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  10. anportmorbhoy

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    I dont think UEFA sit and go through each clubs songbooks and tell each club what songs their fans can/cant sing. They leave it up to the common sence of the fans to know the line. If you take the piss you get in trouble - dont and you wont

    Indeed i dont think even any club has had to tell their fans what they can/cant sing....they leave it to the fans to decide themselves whether to be human beings or idiots who get their club in trouble.....well i say no club....i believe there is one club who had to had out a wee book telling their fans what they should/shouldnt sing as the fans couldnt work it out for themselves
     
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    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    fenian is a bit like ******

    we cant use it but you can <laugh>
     
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    UEFA Regulations 6(1) about clubs being responsible for the behaviour of their supporters

    UEFA specifically mentioned &#8220;No Pope in Rome&#8221;, &#8220;**** the Pope&#8221; and the Billy Boys as discriminatory singing and concluded the following:

    &#8220;UEFA has to send a strong message that sectarianism is unacceptable within football, especially within UEFA competitions. If Rangers FC wishes to compete in UEFA competitions, they must combat this behaviour not only on the occasion of home matches but also on the occasion of away matches. These incidents are ascribable to Rangers FC in accordance with Article 6(1) RD and must be punished accordingly.&#8221;
     
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  13. BolloBollo

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    No Pope of Rome should stay. It's basically a song saying do not recognise the Vatican.
    The only thing wrong with it is it's not mentioning football but how many other clubs do the same?
     
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    You are surely fishing with this one bollo !!
     
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    Don't be stupid.
     
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    I'll try not to be <ok>
     
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  17. BolloBollo

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    I can see the "**** the pope" would offend but I'm struggling with the hullaballoo about the billy boys also?
     
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  18. RebelBhoy

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    sure you are.
     
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  19. BolloBollo

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    **** sake you're sure going off in tangents today <ok>
     
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  20. RebelBhoy

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    No sir.

    i just think you are being a tad disingenuous.
     
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