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Scottish Independence and other political topics.

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  1. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, the same one whose Government inherited a massive national debt from their Oxbridge elitist predecessors
     
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  2. The Mighty Thor

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    The same one who made 17 visits to Moscow, no doubt about where his priorities were.
     
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  3. NSIS

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    I was around in those days. Trust me, Wilson & co made it worse! As far as I'm concerned, they're all politicians. **** the lot of 'em.
     
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  4. pabird

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    He made Many things worse and did actually state "it will not damage the pound in your pocket"
     
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  5. paultheplug

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    I too was around in those days. He started one of the best universities in the world. The Open University. It brought the prospect of higher education into the reach of many through distance learning.
     
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  6. littleDinosaurLuke

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    I'm not particularly sticking up for Wilson, only pointing out that he was an intelligent man from a modest background, who did well at Oxford and made it to the top in politics.

    This is not something you could envisage happening today. Whatever their supposed political colours, the leading politicians are all from the same posh Oxbridge set and have essentially the same outlook.
     
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  7. The Mighty Thor

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    Kenneth Clarke's father was a Nottinghamshire miner, hardly silver spoon stuff.
     
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  8. littleDinosaurLuke

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    He's hardly a top politician of today!
     
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  9. NSIS

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    Wislon, as the a Private Eye called him, was also responsible for the, effectively 98% supertax, which inspired George Harrison to write "Taxman" and for a lot of wealthier Brits abandoning the UK for more tax friendly climes.
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    This could possible be construed as being interesting: http://trendsmap.com/v2/Lf62/w

    ...mostly because it implies that nobody in Japan outside Tokyo is on Twatter.
     
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  11. The Mighty Thor

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    He's not so long ago Luke.
     
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  12. Chirpy rides again

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    One difference between kids from private or even grammar schools and state schools is that they are taught to communicate effectively with adults and their peers. Whether this is simply a by product of their education, or a deliberate strategy, it is one of the main reasons why they typically do better at interviews for university than a state school kid of equal intelligence and with the same results.
     
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  13. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    Wilson was at Oxford in the '40s, TMT. Long time ago to me
     
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  14. Milk not bear jizz

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    I wouldn't want to go to Oxford. I've seen Inspector Morse/Lewis. The university and city is full of adulterers/murderers/blackmailers/swindlers. You've got a 50% chance of being murdered- and the investigating detective is guaranteed to develop a crush on the person that murdered you (if of the opposite sex)!

    It's just not a safe place to be.
     
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  15. The Mighty Thor

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    We were talking about Kenneth Clarke Luke, one of only two Englishmen in Maggie's cabinet. Take the hint Scotland?
     
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  16. NSIS

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    HBIC

    It could be worse. You could be stuck in Midsomer!!. The murder Capitol of the world!!....<yikes>
     
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  17. littleDinosaurLuke

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    TMT, I'll meet you halfway on Ken Clarke.

    His dad was an electrician in the mines, later a jeweller. Ken went to Nottingham High School, a renowned independent school, the school of D.H.Lawrence, Ed Balls, Geoff Hoon and interestingly Chelsea's permanent loaned out striker Patrick Bamford
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    Hardly working class.
     
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  18. pabird

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    The desire on here to defend political socialism only ever demonstrates a successful run in government in Sweden all other attempts have failed to improve the world of the working man and that applies in particular here in the UK

    The failures are 99.9pc fiscal in the failure to improve the working man's lot whilst depleting the treasury

    I started work in the late 1950s and without doubt my family suffered most under "this will not damage the pound in your pocket" Wilson "crisis what crisis" Callahan the final period of Thatchers run but most of all in retirement under the calamity of Brown / Balls and Blair
    Brown took 500m a year out of private pension holders allowances forcing the collapse of so many (working men's) private pensions whilst allowing state pensioners the princely pa increase of 75 pence
     
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  19. bigsmithy9

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    Someone mentioned an anti England stance.Is this so today?...and why?Are some Scots still living in the 1700's with pictures of Bonnie Prince Charlie on their walls?

    I have nothing against people rooting for their country and being proud of same.

    But my mind goes back to the 50's and 60's and always wondered why the English seemed to be embarrassed by raising the Cross of St George.Nearly always we saw the Union Jack flying here.Not today though,thank goodness!

    I've always been proud to be an Englishman.......even if we have embarrassed ourselves many times throughout history.

    p.s. I was speaking to an American priest last week and I asked him what had happened lastWednesday (Sept 3rd) 75 years ago.He had no idea.I told him WW2 started killing,maybe,60 million people.Probably more."Oh my,"said he."I'd forgotten that!
    I told him not to forget 15th Sept 2015. "Why?".75 years ago,the RAF saved the world,with a little help from Hitler......and pilots from around the world.

    Proud to be English and proud to be British!!!!!!
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    They don't even know what happened on September 11th - the CIA had Salvador Allende, the democratically elected president of Chile who happened to be a Marxist, replaced with the far more palatable General Pinochet. That worked out for everyone involved, didn't it?
     
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