It is not a manifesto it is a post expresssing the reasons most people are voting YES. If you think that is utopia then it shows how low you set your sights.
You're didgging a hole NSIS first anyone can publish anything now it's call ed the internet it's quite simple. I can tell you that this is not official it is individual, but as I said it does reflect the aspirations of most YES voters that I know. Whether these are socialist or not depends more on how they are to be delivered rather than the content. The vast majority of the SNP's economic projections are certainly not based on oil, it represents about 15% of the Scottish economy. There really is no excuse for getting these figure so wrong I have published full government figures on this thread they are there for all to see. Why do you wish to back the establishment in their tissue of lies?
f Scotland becomes independent, it will be despite the efforts of almost the entire UK establishment. It will be because social media has defeated the corporate media. It will be a victory for citizens over the Westminster machine, for shoes over helicopters. It will show that a sufficiently inspiring idea can cut through bribes and blackmail, through threats and fear-mongering. That hope, marginalised at first, can spread across a nation, defying all attempts to suppress it. George Monbiot.
please log in to view this image The CBI has just about 50 (Fifty) members in Scotland. Business for Scotland has 2650 members. The CBI is the voice of business?
Source? The CBI claim to represent firms with over half a million employees in Scotland. I don't think that either side are telling the truth and any research that I've done on the claims being made by the Yes campaign seems to confirm that. The idea that so many factors that a successful vote would have are being left up in the air is completely ridiculous. People simply don't know what they're voting for.
So what Spurf? The Nazis were the minority but were the voice of Germany. ISIS are the minority but are the voice of Islam. The Japanese war machine was the minority but was the voice of Japan. The communist party in Russia was small but had the voice of the whole Soviet Union so the CBI is the minority but is the voice of Scotland. NOTHING new in this or strange or different. Poor hard done by Scots? I don't think so. Spurf, you're making the Scots out to be a poor downtrodden people being jackbooted on by England which isn't the case. Do you want us to cry for them or something? Will independence be a "Victory" over Westminster as you call it?
The only people digging holes are the Yes campaign - for the rest of the Scottish people. I cannot believe that that poster has been allowed to flourish if it doesn't represent the Yes campaign. Surely, they would have requested it's withdrawal. This article from The Economist gives a far more balanced view of Scotland's future economic prospects. As you will see, in 2012 alone, oil represented over one third of Scotland's total exports. As for banking and insurance ( yes, those nasty capitalist inventions that will pay for your milk and honey future ) as has been said by Standard Life, amongst others, a significant proportion of it will leave to avoid the uncertain future. http://www.economist.com/news/brita...ch-country-terrible-prospects-costly-solitude Despite the fact that the head of BP, and Standard Life having cautioned about their future intentions, Salmond still dismisses it as scaremongering. The way he dismisses everything and everybody that he knows can derail his bandwagon. I am no supporter of the establishment. I distrust and detest politicians - including Salmond! However, I feel very strongly that Scotland is allowing itself to be charmed away by a pipe dream. A pipe dream that will hurt the economic future of the whole UK.
The banks just might have put the kibosh on the "yes" vote. To transfer parts of their businesses to England because of uncertainties about an independent Scotland's policies on membership of the EU, currency, tax, pensions, savings, financial services and consumer protection legislation etc is hardly a ringing endorsememt and will have many ordinary Scots very worried about their own personal financial interests.
Yes, fantastic for the Scots to have increased devolutionary powers provided it benefits them and to England's detriment. At least Cameron is thinking of England in all this unlike Blair and Brown, Scotland, Scotland, Scotland.
Is that the same Cameron who's offered them more powers and given them the referendum in the first place, TMT? The guy's a cheap Blair knockoff and sending him to Scotland might've pushed them over the edge. Ridiculous idea. I'm still contemplating the theory that this is a deliberate ploy by the Tories to try and ensure that they get elected more often in the future. Nobody North of the border will ever side with them on anything, leaving them with only one MP up there, so they certainly wouldn't be losing many votes. They're running out of things to flog to their mates down here though, so they might still try to grab a few bits on the way out.
"Despite the fact that the head of BP, and Standard Life having cautioned about their future intentions" What are BP specifically whining about ?? Oil sales are done in USD, a currency with no links to the independence debate. If material import costs increase due to a weaker currency, then their profits take a reduction. "Salmond still dismisses it as scaremongering." Paging Mr Pot : message from Mr Kettle (no currency union = no share of the UK debt) ... "The way he dismisses everything and everybody that he knows can derail his bandwagon." Just mention the "Harvard speech" to him as proof of his understanding of the greater economic matters.
It was obvious that the industrial/financial heavyweights would eventually come out in support of the Union. The utopian tartan mirage while engaging has little chance of establishing itself under such weak foundations . Most if not all , on all sides are motivated by self interest . The bonnie Jacobite Salmomd has very little answers but the relentless cry of scaremongering . I think that the Yes vote will be gradually be chipped at , as the reality of economic uncertainty beds in .
I posted earlier PNP that Cameron is going up there to save his own arse from losing his job should the yes vote win. I hope they do vote yes so that we get shot of their moaning whinging arses. I didn't know that he'd offered them more devolutionary powers.
Is that why this thread has had over 700 responses, because no one cares? Is this you still not caring? Get a grip, seriously.
