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Scotch Independence - the countdown

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by stopmeandslapme, Feb 5, 2014.

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    I suspect they would object to that more than the UK would.
     
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  2. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Out of the blue or when she got to know you well enough to find out you're a tit ? <ok>
     
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  3. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    This referendum is a load of ****e. We should have just done what McGregors burd done last May.

    **** off without any explanation and refuse to take the UKs calls.
     
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  4. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    You're way behind the times, it is nothing to do with the diet, it is to do with poverty. 60 years of a Labour mafia and parts of Glasgow have a lower life expectancy than the Gaza strip.
     
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  5. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    [video=youtube;F4carpZWlVU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=F4carpZWlVU[/video]
    Right click to open.
     
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  6. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    You seem pretty much on the Left - what would you do differently from the Labour mafia?
     
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  7. rogueleader

    rogueleader suave gringo

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    50 Ways To Leave Your Union
     
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  8. ManDingo 20"/20"

    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

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    Hes a dafty, I know. Anyone basing their vote on the opinions of someone from the other side of the world doesn't deserve the vote.
     
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  9. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    Can't be that poor if they can afford to eat takeaways every day and drink and smoke themselves to death.
     
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  10. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    What does Left mean in this context Mick, I would not describe New Labour as a party of the left for example. What I would do differently? Almost everything! Did you see the programme on BBC about Duke Street? The lady that fought to preserve the old tenements and refused to move to the tower blocks? I think it was in that programme. Anyway she acheived more than the council had done. The simplistic answer is that people have to be treated with respect and given a stake in their future, not treated as imbeciles and victims.

    Your description of me as on the left is too simplistic btw. These left right descriptions are out of date in the modern world.
     
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  11. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    Sure <doh>
     
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  12. ManDingo 20"/20"

    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

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    Hes calling you a socialist.

    Whenever you don't agree with Mick you are a socialist <ok>
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Unfortunately living your life in a Fiefdom makes that highly unlikely. I'm for an independent Scotland if only because there is a far better chance of getting rid of our unelected leaders in an Indpendent Scotland than there is in a United Kingdom, where the majority seem to be accepting of the fact that they will always be an underclass. Peons.
     
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  14. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    thus consigning your fellow Brits to a lifetime of Tory rule. How noble of you.
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    I did'nt mean the Tories, I was talking about the family of Parasites.
     
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  16. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    Nah, I didn't see it - I don't watch much BBC. I'm just pointing out that I see a lot of 'things must change' without much of a plan of what you would do different (outside the obligatory 'chuck more money' at it response). I think the problem in a lot of these social estates is the culture - study after study has shown that kids are influenced a lot by their parents, but mostly by their peers. So when you have a load of lowly educated maniac people concentrated in the one place you are condemning a good percentage of their children to be maniacs. As an example, a teacher in a normal school might be able to deal with one or two unruly students, but when you have 10 of them in the one class in a social estate it condemns the rest of the kids in that class to a **** education. So aye, I think well intentioned social housing schemes have failed generations of people who have lived in them - and yet there are still calls on the Left for a return to the 1970's model of everyone living in social tower blocks that stink of pish.

    My solution would be basically Thatcherite - keep selling off the social estates and try spread as many socially-dependent families among the general populace as possible (with government subsidised rent). Little Jim Bob with a single alcoholic parent will have a much better chance in life if all his mates come from nice families (with only a moderate level of alcoholism like me!).

    Left and Right might be simplistic and outdated, but we've no better terms in common usage. Believe me I wish it was different, I can't be annoyed explaining every time that I'm a Liberal, but not an 'American Liberal', nor a Liberal Democrat, etc.
     
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  17. A.L.D.O 4.1

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    A liberal smattering of tedium <ok>
     
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  18. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    ^^ waste product of a pishy social estate with maniac peers.
     
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  19. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Here Mick, any chance of posting a link to people/groups calling for a 1970s model of everyone living in tower blocks?

    It was a actually a 1950s policy but let's not split hairs.
     
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  20. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Hey, it's a living :emoticon-0109-kiss:
     
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