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Scotch Independence - the countdown

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by stopmeandslapme, Feb 5, 2014.

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. Deleted 1

    Deleted 1 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    One of the best rants i've seen on here in a while - and pretty accurate too <applause>
     
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  2. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    Perfectly legal, because an offshore insurance company would be the benefactor.
     
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    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    It's not about people earning 44,000 or even 200.000 it's about a system run by millionaires for millionaires. It's about the fact that for ONE THOUSAND YEARS the same elite have been in control thus making it difficult for others to succeed. I object to the House of Lords for example where the elite can turn up and earn a handy £300 a day PLUS expenses whilst denying some poor bastard who is out of work enough money to eat.

    I am a successful businessman I own more than one property and have a good income, I am not poor by any standards, but I would like to live in a fairer society where MORE people have a chance.

    The Irony is that if we lose this vote it will be poor people that vote No through fear that will have lost it.
     
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  4. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    You can get a season ticket at Bayern Munich for £105. English Premier League fitba is the biggest wallet raping on Earth <laugh>
     
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  5. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    Tesco, not Tesco's <ok>
     
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    monacoger POTY 2021

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    My season ticket for Monaco was 70quid a few years ago.
     
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    £400 at Vicarage Road <yikes> What's the going rate at Celtic these days?
     
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  8. VenomPD

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    Scrap my comment about English fitba because a season ticket to watch that dirge we call the SPFL is 4 times as much as that.

    British fitba fans are ****ing mugs.
     
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    Pretty much comparable Dan. I think it's £300 but then they charge £100 for 3 European games.

    Total **** rip-off. If it was the same price as Germany I'd buy one no bother.
     
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  10. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    I've become an economics geek over the last few years though (it's surprisingly interesting) - once you understand that you actually pay the tax, as they pass it back to you in prices, you get a little less upset about them paying lower taxes (as long as the industry is very competitive and the tax savings are actually passed on, which to be fair to the likes of Amazon they do).

    What's the point in getting a Government involved if it's just going to pass your own money back to you? Listen to Government spokesmen as well "we created 150,000 jobs this year" - bollocks you did, the people created their own jobs - there are 35 million people getting out of bed in the morning and they are creating things, you're just taxing a part of it, giving most of it back after paying yourself - then taking the ****ing credit.
     
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    So the likes of Google and Starbucks are passing value back onto customers when they dodge tax aye? <laugh>
     
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    It's just not fair is it?

    people who never bothered their arses to get educated then dossed about for years in a ****ey call centre then finally ended up on the dole. It's just not fair that they're not rich

    down with westminster
     
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    <laugh>

    Dinnae be so hard on yerself Nevski.
     
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    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    They don't like that. They come after you with IR35 legislation.
     
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  15. Mick

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    Nah, Google have a monopoly, and I think they should be seriously close to being investigated by some sort of anti-trust regulator (for instance some of the things they've done with this site, and also the way they've encrypted their keywords for search words recently - seriously filthy and almost certainly intended to kill competition).

    Amazon are in a very competitive industry though, and their margins are barely hitting 0.5% which is historically unprecedented for such a big company. Even the likes of Tesco have recently had to abandon their 5% margin targets to engage in aggressive price battles with the low cost supermarkets.

    I believe this is how you improve the lot of normal people - you make the industries they buy **** from so competitive that eventually their profit margins drop close to zero percent. As we automate more and more of our production in these competitive industries you'll get to the stage where the price comes to close to zero (as it has done in the newspaper industry, as news went online cutting out most of the costs of production).
     
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    legal though
     
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  17. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Entirely. But HMRC seem to think they can tell you your own company's payment and remuneration structure. The ****s. But are quite happy to leave the fat cats alone that are doing the exact same thing.
     
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    The hardest thing to do in your neo-liberal utopia is get started from the bottom. It took me a third of my working life to get on the first rung of the ladder, once there it becomes easier and the higher up the ladder you get the easier it gets. The problem is the difficulty of getting started. The other problem is the mass of the people who just want security and a decent wage so that they can live a decent life, they are fodder in your system totally dependent on that system.

    Plus the UK is declining the crash IS the system failing and it can only be propped up for so long. The UK and the USA have had their run their best is behind them. The sooner we leave that ship the better.

    Proud Rat. :wink:
     
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    And stick the boot in to poor wee fitba clubs!
     
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  20. VenomPD

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    What does any of that really have to do with dodging huge amounts of corporation tax though? Neither Starbucks or Google are passing any kind of saving onto consumers.
     
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