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Scotch Independence - the countdown

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by stopmeandslapme, Feb 5, 2014.

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

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  2. No

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  1. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    So true dat
     
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  2. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    aldo the *****
     
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  3. gas

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  4. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    ^^^^

    From 2012.
     
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  5. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    <laugh>
     
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  6. gas

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    16 June 2014 Last updated at 14:57 :D

    Scotland's main opposition party leaders have jointly pledged to increase Holyrood fiscal powers in the event of a vote against independence.

    The Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat leaders also said they would work to boost Scottish Parliament responsibility for social security.

    Johann Lamont, Ruth Davidson and Willie Rennie made the joint declaration.

    Scottish ministers argue the nation needs full independence to realise its potential.

    Each of the parties has already set out proposals to devolve more power to Holyrood and will promise to act on them, whoever wins the next UK general election.

    Scottish Labour's devolution commission said MSPs should be able to vary tax by up to 15p, giving them the option of restoring the 50p rate for top earners.

    And it said housing benefit should be devolved to Holyrood, allowing MSPs to scrap the UK government's controversial under occupancy charge, branded the "bedroom tax" by Labour and other critics.

    The Scottish Conservatives said Scotland should be given full income tax powers and responsibility on welfare issues which relate to devolved areas, such as housing benefits, and attendance allowance.

    The Liberal Democrats want Holyrood to be able to raise and spend most of its own taxes and borrow on its own terms.

    In their joint statement, the three party leaders, said: "We support a strong Scottish Parliament in a strong United Kingdom and we support the further strengthening of the parliament's powers.

    "The three parties delivered more powers for Holyrood through the Calman Commission which resulted in the Scotland Act 2012.

    "We now pledge to further strengthen the powers of the Scottish Parliament, in particular in the areas of fiscal responsibility and social security.

    "We believe that Scotland should have a stronger Scottish Parliament while retaining full representation for Scotland at Westminster."
     
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  7. The Raging Oxter

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    Labour jumping into bed with the Tories. I'm sure that'll go down well with their core support.
     
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  8. Deleted 1

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    I've said all along that if a pollster asks how you will vote you should say "yes" regardless of your real opinion. That way you could see exactly what they were prepared to offer to get a different result.
     
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  9. Mick

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  10. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    The union was founded on pooling risk and sharing resources.
     
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  11. gas

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    Who's ****ing side are you on Mick ya **** <grr>
     
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  12. The Raging Oxter

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    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/13/uk-britain-politics-cameron-idUKKBN0DS16R20140513


    Vote NO and get another five years (at least) of Cameron, Osborne et al. governing Scotland despite the Tories being a minority party.

    Vote no = Tory government running Scotland.
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    As always the Republican side.
     
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  14. Mick O'Toon

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    Probably not Dev,what side is giving the most gambling concessions?
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    I forgot he's a Capitalist, now i'm confused.
     
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  16. Mick O'Toon

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    Though he did spend 3/4 pages on the YES side last week so typical bookie hedging his bets and laying them off,just in case!
     
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  17. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    He has a refundable single trip ticket to Scotland just in case we actually go Independent.
     
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  18. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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  19. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    they paid for hampden too & the kelpies
     
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  20. The Raging Oxter

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    "Yessum, Mr Cameron, sir"
     
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