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Science - It's life Jim but not as we know it...

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  1. Archers Road

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    Of course there is always the danger of creating a super-massive black hole that the entire visible universe gets sucked unto, but yeah; probs worth a try.
     
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    I must admit, I did think that when I heard they was messing about with this stuff.
     
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    What could possibly go wrong?


    Ahem <Chernobyl> cough!
     
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    <laugh>

    Well if that happens we won't know much about it.
     
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    Tbf that's the one thing that is unlikely as it's nuclear fusion not fission. Very little if any radioactive waste. Hence why it's being researched.

    The whole black hole, universe sucked in though, still plausible :bandit:
     
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    Oh well, that’s alright then <laugh>
     
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    <laugh>

    I'm hoping they power the whole London Underground on it <whistle>
     
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    What i would like to know is what energy source is used to power it?

    If you could use the energy it produces to power itself and still put more out than in then you would have free energy for ever and the more you put back in the more you would get out.
    Perpetual motion has been a goal for tens of decades and always thought impossible.
     
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    Wouldn't have anymore climate change :bandit:
     
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    From what I've read they've moved completely away from all carbon and pretty sure hydrogen is key to it (deutrium - two hydrogen molecules) and tungsten iirc. It's in the New Scientist article, I'll post the link.
     
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    It's the Nature article...

    JET and ITER use magnetic fields to confine plasma, a superheated gas of hydrogen isotopes, in the tokamak. Under heat and pressure, the hydrogen isotopes fuse into helium, releasing energy as neutrons.

    To break the energy record, JET used a tritium fuel mix, the same one that will power ITER, which is being built in southern France. Tritium is a rare and radioactive isotope of hydrogen that, when fusing with deuterium, produces many more neutrons than do deuterium reactions alone. That ramps up the energy output, but using this fuel required JET to undergo more than two years of renovation to prepare the machine for the onslaught.
     
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    It's believed whereas it might be possible to create a micro black hole from Nuclear Fusion that micro black hole would be so small and unstable it would collapse incredibly quickly and be pretty darn hard to ever even detect.

    ... Of course, would suck if they're wrong about that.
     
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    A micro black hole. Never heard of this. Would it still have a ridiculous amount of gravitational pull that it sucks light in? Sounds cool.
     
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    From what I understand (and I could be wrong), Micro black holes are only theoretical, we've never witnessed one because they decay quickly. All black holes decay over time if they're not getting fresh matter and a micro black hole would decay quicker than it could absorb light and matter.
     
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    People said the same thing about CERN when they started it up. That the amounts of energy being created might create a black hole and suck the solar system into it.

    Wonder if that's actually ever happened anywhere in the universe though ? Intelligent species trying to create unlimited free energy accidently obliterates it's own planet and neighbours within the nearest 10 light years
     
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    New planet discovered, with potential to have water, now it's been found other astromoners may direct telescopes towards it for more observations. Be interesting to see if the James Webb Telescope will be used to look towards it, although that has an already designated itinerary.

    It's also been reported, that the first pictures are expected back today from JWT at 3.30pm (GMT).

    New planet discovery... https://www.theguardian.com/science...-planet-orbiting-nearest-star-to-solar-system

    JWT first images expected back... https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescopes-first-images-nasa-announcement
     
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    The thing is I think they already know certain moons of planets in our solar system have water. Those moons are bigger than Earth. Titan is one that springs to mind but I could be wrong. So is discovering a planet with water any more significant these days? Genuine question.
     
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    Io is another one that they've had an eye on for potential as that has water (frozen)

    I guess the big discovery would come with a planet that has water in a liquid state and has a stable atmosphere.
     
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    I thought the same, so was slightly confused to why this particular planet was such a big thing, but for whatever reason it was - although I expect the James Webb Telescope will bat that into insignificant with its future findings.
     
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    I believe that is what they were suggesting with this find, I thought I heard the term, running water.
     
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