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Daily Racing Thread Saturday 25th January 2014: Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by TopClass, Jan 24, 2014.

  1. Reebok

    Reebok YTS Mod
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    I seem to have problems with my comp too. I have rowed with Betfred today because, firstly I couldn't log in - the login button was missing, then when I did log in, I needed to add some funds but each time I clicked the "my account" button , it just fired me straight back to the home page. Their solution? Get in touch with my bank FFS <steam>

    However as I had a problem with Corals recently, maybe I have a virus or something - but that shouldn't affect this website
     
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  2. woolcombe-folly007

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    I get you, I was the same with Master Minded, just didnt take to him- was a superb animal but just didnt take to him! I think so, I think alot of it depends how Big Bucks does tomorrow, if he cruises to victory tomorrow I can even see her skipping the festival but I just find it hard to imagine that Willie will put her out in the open in a 3M contest but who knows whats going on inside thier heads badger, thats just my views
     
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  3. Reebok

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    And I'll show you mine as well - not to be missed. In fact you couldn't. She is WH bound - trust me <ok>
     
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  4. woolcombe-folly007

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    That is true Bob, but surely Ruby missing out on the ride on him tomorrow when they put the Mares hurdle forward for him to ride has to say something about his chances but as you say BB will in but hes no value atm. Just cant wait to see him back in action!
     
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  5. Bostonbob

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    Why are you lot positive AP goes three miles at Cheltenham. She's not a guaranteed stayer. There's nowt in her pedigree that screams she'll get 3miles up the hill.she's not run over the extended trip. As far as I can see Rich Richie wants to run in the Champion Hurdle.

    The only things in favour of her running in the World Hurdle are Ruby's persuasiveness so he can ride the Fly and her and the fact that this years World looks awfully weak whereas the Champion is potentially strong.
     
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  6. Tamerlo

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    3.25 Leopardstown
    Quick Jack (Nap)

    His defeat of Serious Trouble (118) off a mark of 113 looks really good- since the latter then ran off a mark of 133 and was only just touched off by Livius two weeks ago at Kempton.
    Off his current mark of 119, he looks a cast iron bet.
    Best price 3/1 (various).


    3.15 Doncaster
    Time For Rupert.

    Having raced off 161 when favourite for the 2011 RSA Chase, he hasn’t fulfilled expectations.
    However, he still ran fifth in Synchronised’s Gold Cup off 153, and he has now come down to a lowly 143- although he ran to 157 when 4th behind Silviniaco Conti in the Charlie Hall just over a year ago.
    He’s obviously had his problems, and his only race since the Charlie Hall was a pipe opener over hurdles just before last Xmas (behind Reve De Sivola.
    If he has a good race left in him, this has to his chance off his attractive mark.
    Best Price 14/1 (various).

    3.35 Cheltenham
    Big Bucks.

    You’re backing he’s retained his form. No more, no less.
    If he has, then 11/10 against the best stayer in history has to be a laugh.
    Best Price 11/10 (Various)
     
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  7. TopClass

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    UNIONISTE looks one to take on surely? I cannot imagine Doncaster suiting his style and I'd be much more interested each-way in someone like BAILE ANRAI 16/1, who finally got its head in front over fences recently and has a superb run-up until falling- behind Invictus/Bobs Worth/Silviniaco Conti in the Reynoldstown of 2012.
     
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  8. DonegalDave

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    For me:

    Treble 1:

    Double Ross 3/1
    Big Bucks 1/1
    Rocky Creek 6/4

    Treble 2:

    Red sherlock 13/8
    Vincenzo Mio 7/4
    Centasia 7/2


    Lucky 15 I placed last weekend:

    On His Own 8/1 - won
    Unioniste 8/1
    Blood Cotil 10/1
    Texas Jack 14/1 - Non Runner


    Single - Only one so far:

    Timesremembered 7/2
     
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  9. ROTO

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    3.25 Leopardstown

    Way Up In The Air 28/1

    There are still definite concerns that this massive 7 year old Mare is a bit of a bridle merchant but I think this big field contest likely to be run at a very decent gallop should definitely suit her strong travelling nature on her return to timber. Kept to fences so far this season, Way Up In The Air made a lovely chasing debut when beaten a fast diminishing short head by Jim Will Fix It under an awful ride by Philip Enright and although she disappointed when sent off a 5/2 shot in a Grade 3 Mares Novice Chase on her last start in December she travelled very well for a long way before emptying to find nothing and, if not a bridle merchant, she either completely blew up or perhaps burst a blood vessel. Either way, she's been given 48 days to recover from that race on her return over timber off a mark of 124. Looking back at her hurdles form, she was effectively an impressive winner on her hurdling debut (fell at first on actual hurdles debut) off an average looking contest when travelling like a dream, jumping beautifully throughout and idling to a 4.5L success and she backed that up with a really good 4th behind 3 very decent Mares in Glens Meoldy, Jennies Jewel and Zuzka on her next start. Over 2m2f at Leopardstown, Way Up In The Air was pitched into a Listed Hurdle on her second start over timber where she once again acquitter herself very well when finishing a 9L beaten 4th last January. Held up in the rear of the 7 runner contest, Way Up In The Air cruised into contention under what was probably an overly patient ride by Enright and jumped the last just behind the leading pair in 3rd but under strong pressure she faded back to 4th and may not have stayed the 2m2f trip. Her final start over hurdles represented her handicap debut off a mark of 121 at Cork last April where she finished a good 2L beaten 2nd where, which seems to be the story of her career, she travelled like a dream through the field and came to the last swinging off the bridle before finding very little to finish a 2L beaten 2nd. Although her bridle merchant tag may well be true, there is no doubt in my mind that she has a serious, serious engine and if connections have perhaps found a reason to why she is not finishing off her races then I think she has a belting chance in this off a mark of 124. With a lovely weight of 10-5 and for Robert Tyner who took this in 2007 with Spring The Que, I think Way Up In The Air will love scything through this large field and if she gets to the last in contention then hopefully she'll find a bit more off the bridle and land this very valuable handicap.
     
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  10. ROTO

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    Keeping these 3 short enough.

    12.25 Doncaster Hidden Justice 12/1 looked a really exciting hurdler when winning his first two starts over timber for John Quinn and despite finding himself out of depth in the Triumph Hurdle and disappointing badly on his latest start in a handicap at Musselburgh on his first start for 8 months on New Years Day I think the handicapper has given him a massive chance dropping him to a mark of 133 and with the very talented Dean Pratt taking off an invaluable 7lb at a course where John Quinn has a 7-11 record in the past 2 years then I think 12/1 looks huge with the step up to 2m3f sure to suit this strong stayer on the flat.

    3.15 Doncaster Kruzhlinin 9/1 comes here in search of a hat trick having scored over just shy of 3m at Kelso on his last 2 starts and although up 6lb to 144 in a much better race he's definitely unexposed over this sort of trip and I thought he won win a fair bit in hand on his latest start.

    3.55 Leopardstown Nearly Nama'd 9/1 travelled like a dream from the front off this mark of 124 LTO when perhaps finding the 2m7f trip too far and I think he's got a great chance of landing this dropped back to 2m4f off only a 4lb higher mark than he won off 2 starts ago.
     
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  11. OddDog

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    Paddy Power and Coral go 5/4 Big Buck's this morning <yikes>

    Nicholls sounds confident enough in his Betfair column here

    It's great to see the champ back and here's hoping he can give us yet another "wow" moment this afternoon. I was looking back at some of his victories on youtube last night and this one has to be the most incredible - "laughing" at Grands Crus at Aintree:

    [video=youtube;kDT7-wTiK50]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDT7-wTiK50[/video]
     
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  12. gazboy

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    Ladbrokes and Coral go 6/4! YES 6/4 at 9am Coral only online/on mobile! Ladbrokes everywhere!!!

    6/4!!! When 10/11 was a great price!
     
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  13. cityhull

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    I remember that oddy, he went off at 4/6 and I had my biggest ever bet and is still my biggest ever bet to this day!

    Laddies go 6/4 at some point, laughable as he's and absolute cert! Runs to within a stone of his form and he wins and do we even know if BB has ever ran to his peak as nothing has ever been good enough to go with him! He just laughs at his opposition!
     
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  14. L_M

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    Surely Big Bucks is worth a bet at odds against in the Cleeve Hurdle! Big Bucks and Annie Power in a win double (although it won't pay much).

    Paul Nicholls said on The Morning Line he'll run Al Ferof in the Gold Cup, I reckon the Ryanair would suit him better, doubts about him staying the trip in the Gold Cup.
     
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  15. CaptainPops

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    Morning all... some great racing today...Nicholls could have a big race across the cards treble today with Big Bucks, Unioniste and Rocky Creek...I really hope Big Bucks does it today and I am also hoping At Fishers Cross comes back to his best.

    Just been listening to Nicholls on the morning line and he is pretty bullish about Unioniste today ...so was Tom Segal for that matter! Im surprised the going up at Doncaster is soft - good/soft in places on the chase course! A going description with good in it!!

    Just the one bet for me today in the SkyBet chase and i may regret not backing Unioniste but Im going for a decent each way bet on Native Gallery 12/1 GP 4 places... yep 4 places with Sky Bet. This horse had only his 2nd run over fences a few weeks ago at Kempton where he finished 3rd behind Planet of Sound but shaped quite nicely. He has been dropped a couple of pounds and runs off 131 today. His best mark over hurdles was 143.. He has Leighton Aspell on board who is a jockey in form, has near bottom weight and is open to improvement. I think he has an outstanding each way chance.
     
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  16. stick

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    Not 6/4 without good reason. Eleven years old, returning from injury after an eleven month lay off. I hope the real AT FISHERS CROSS turns up today. Its a massive day in terms of the World Hurdle. Expect to see a clear favourite tonight!
     
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  17. CaptainPops

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    If the going is good or good to soft for the gold cup - massive chance for me! He stayed the king george in soft ground whilst also covering more ground by on occasions jumping out to the left..
     
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  18. TopClass

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    Al Ferof will win the Gold Cup IMO!
     
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  19. stick

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    If you have any powder left post Big Bucks then consider a punt on ELEGANT STRIDE 3:50 Doncaster 7-1. Nice pedigree this one and Don Cantillon has a wonderful knack of finding horses to win these sort of races. My understanding is that they like this one a lot but it is a very good race and several will fancy their chance!
     
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  20. SaveTheHumans

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    Quick Decision 5/1 Cheltenham 4:10 really impressed me LTO at Wetherby where he beat a few well fancied rivals with ease with the front 3 pulling a way clear an 11lb rise shouldn't halt him if in the mood today.

    Valdez 15/8 Doncaster 12:55 impressive thus far this season and looks on the upgrade with each run with ROR now a non runner he will take some beating granted the King yard has recovered fully.

    Timesremembered 3/1 Doncaster 2:40 hoping the step in trip should eek even more improvement he has the best form in the book for me and should prove difficult to beat.

    Big Bucks also wins today and i wonder what price Dexter is giving on STD falling off though!! Hopefully he won't.
    Goodluck as usual to all.
     
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