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Daily Racing Thread Saturday 20th. June 2015

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    However many it is it isn't enough! I'll take the flat any day of the week over donkeys jumping twigs!
     
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  2. SaveTheHumans

    SaveTheHumans Well-Known Member

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    So we are certain had he raced with he others Brazen Beau would have won? He was leading inside the furlong pole ??? He was beat by a better horse on the day. It's easy to say the jockey got Brazen Beau beat at home when not one of us know apart from his trainer and rider what would suit the horse. Undrafted won and if Brazen Beau had held hands with him till the furlong pole, Undrafted still would of won.
     
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  3. Ste D

    Ste D Well-Known Member

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    Im a jumps man all the way, none of this mugged on the line bolix (mostly)
     
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  4. Grecian Mick

    Grecian Mick Well-Known Member

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    I see Hannon and Levy having a fine afternoon at Redcar. Think Hannon had 3 runners and all 3 won and Levy had 4 rides and won all 4.
     
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  5. DAYO10

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    Ste - we all like a good jump but back to business haha :cheesy:
     
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  6. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Wash your mouth out Smokey <laugh>
     
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  7. beeforsalmon

    beeforsalmon Well-Known Member

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    Hardly a race this week we haven't seen hard luck stories though, you need woeful good luck at times here, balls to that <laugh>

    Onto Gowran for the 5.05, if DUCKWEED'S beat at least its not likely to be by draw or not getting a split....just that I couldn't tip a waiter <rofl>

    Each to their own though, be boring if we all liked the same <ok>
     
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  8. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member
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    Never did like Ascot <laugh>
     
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  9. Grecian Mick

    Grecian Mick Well-Known Member

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    Just seen and backed Hannon/Levey have 3 at Haydock tonight. Surely lightening can't strike twice.
     
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  10. SwanHills

    SwanHills Well-Known Member

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    ..and 4th in last year's July Cup!

    A vintage ride by Dettori. I dunno, I really do think the Aussie horse should have one it though, but I'm always loathe to blame jockeys, just not my style (not that I have any style! <laugh>).
     
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  11. SwanHills

    SwanHills Well-Known Member

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    My first thoughts were Mr. Pickwick, i.e. part Falstaff part Bertie Wooster?
     
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  12. Ste D

    Ste D Well-Known Member

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    Touch a million gowran 4.45 & wicklow brave double 5s
     
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  13. Janabelle13

    Janabelle13 Well-Known Member

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    HOpe no one is on Huntsman's close - must have thought it was the jumps season
     
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  14. Bluesky9

    Bluesky9 Philosopher

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    In my view he definitely cost the horse the race, he remarked in his interview the horse lost concentration. They are racehorses and they need something to race and the jockey needs something to measure pace. I think he ran his race in the middle and did brilliantly to manage what he did, in my opinion he wins 2 lengths if racing with the pack. My big issue is that it's just not necessary to take such risks. To me a jock should keep it as simple as possible and if the horse gets beat so be it. There is always the Eclipse victory of Notnowcato to hold up against this idea but it's not often you see horses take a lone path and win.
     
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  15. SaveTheHumans

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    He also said they worked on it endlessly in training going uphill and that he works alone mostly really well. Any one who loses will always angle at any excuse but I have to say he was very honest and humble in defeat and he never once said he would have won had he raced with the rest. He also said he ran well to the line from 100 yards out. Refreshing interview it was in fact. Sometimes no matter what way a horse Is ridden it will never finish closer than it did if you ran the race 100 times over against the same field and same conditions. Frankie was the back marker coming to to the last 2 furlongs racing out on his own and flew home. I don't think anything would have beat him today.
     
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    ****ing hell. Should report myself for this one!
     
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  17. beeforsalmon

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    7lb claim on young Kennedy's chinned me there on the run in but lovely run all the same. This horse will win a tidy summer jumps race!
     
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  18. Bluesky9

    Bluesky9 Philosopher

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    That is a view STH and we will never know - I would be surprised if they would do the same if they were offered to start again. The jockey was never going to say he would have won if he had raced with the rest as that would have implicated him in the horses loss. I doubt anyone in the group of connections is happy the horse ran on his own, and he did so because of the jockeys decision making.
     
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  19. L_M

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    Racing Post Spotlight on Interception for the Wokingham:

    Lightly raced and progressive at 6f on the AW and turf; looked in good form when making up plenty of late ground on reappearance in 6f mares' Listed event at Haydock latest and could be a surprise package.

    Didn't see this!
     
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  20. SaveTheHumans

    SaveTheHumans Well-Known Member

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    Obviously in the main, it is better to be racing with them, I'm not disputing that fact. I just think the winner had BB today, to me BB did nothing wrong and was in front at the 1 pole and Craig said he went right to the line from 100 yards too so I'm not sure he could have done more. Was a heck of a run either way. I was on BB by the way. As you say we will never know now but we saw two good horses we don't get to see much of live.
     
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