Amazing how they've fallen alright. Has Pep improved Bayern at all? Nearly thought from watching them in Europe last season their tiki taka was overkill, lacking the incisiveness Barca had. I suppose that's the difference Messi brings to the party
Hard to say what effect Pep has had Beefy - they have been pretty much unbeatable in Germany for the last couple of years, they lack real competition to be honest. Their acid test is always the champions league. They just have so much more financial clout than ther rivals in Germany though, just buy whoever they want.
Hamburg are a team I like for some reason and Bayern hadnt quite been back to top form since the break so took the chance at 33/1, they have had a few upsets this year as well but giving away a penalty with a handball after 20 mins the game was done. Leverkusen Wolfsburg was some game! Cheers, I did fancy that Toon River today, was by far my best chance I thought, Harry The Viking looked to hit the front at the right time but Lie Forrit battled back well giving him over a stone. Well done with Balder Succes