Off Topic SARS-CoV-2 Covid-19

**** me, just realised, I’m considered ****ing elderly!
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The management and staff shouldn't be in a position where they are responsible for making up the policies for their care homes. It should have be done nationally and the staff should have been clear about what was expected of them and given the tools to implement it.

 

Thanks for the input - sounds plausible.
Must have been just a coincidence as when I was typing the program name into the far right search box, there was no indication on the top line of the iPlayer being present. When I entered the search request, I was given access to the stream of said program immediately!
Possibly an issue of my VPN link being temporarily "down" or weak signal on my home network.
It may also be that the "logic path" of that particular search engine box allowed me to bi-pass the BBC logic that checks for international IP (invalid) IP addresses. Who kows ?
Complex & unfathomable stuff sometimes !

 

You know ambulance crews work all night and see god knows how many people! you want them to spend their whole shift changing? They’re an emergency service
How often you think they get called to a care home where seconds costs a live from heart attacks etc etc

it’s always easy to just point and stand back isn’t it. A gentleman in a care home I know was rushed in with heart problems stayed in hospital and then came out back to his home! Care home that is. Should the care home refuse him? He might be negative on a test but it hasn’t shown up yet? Where should they put him?

As I say it’s far to easy to sit back and point the finger

 

Add to that can you believe.... Trump Golf courses are now furloughing staff.... I feel for the 117 staff of course... BUT ..... WTF!!!

 

You have no ****ing idea how easy it is waiting to see if someone will die in the next few weeks or months because they are elderly, confused and in a care home where nearly half the residents have coronavirus. None of the points I raise are rocket science and I expected the government to have made contingency plans to stop the spread of the virus in care homes. After all it's full of elderly vulnerable people that the virus is likely to kill.

However you raise a valid point and I'll try and answer it. If someone has returned home after a spell in hospital and is waiting for test results they should be kept in isolation until the results are known. If there are no isolation places the government could have requisitioned some of the thousands of empty hotel rooms for a week or so. This is a national emergency and should have been included in the emergency plan.

 

Err clever **** I was the first on this thread to mention about care homes and elderly needing care in their own homes.
I know full week about people in care homes. oh so magically you’re going to stick a 94 year old in a hotel? And the specialised bed he needs? Who is going to come in and take out the hotel bed and put that in the room? Who gives him his meds? Who washes him and takes to the specialised toilet? Oh wait there isn’t specialised toilet and washing facilities as it’s a ****ing hotel!!
How do these staff know how he is? Are you suggesting 1-1 care for him in this hotel? A pull cord in the room for emergencies? Who fits that then? In a hotel! A private hotel? id love Boris to come out with that pile of ****

 

The NHS shouldn't send out and care homes shouldn't take in anyone THEY suspect of having the virus. Not everything can be sorted by government, sometimes you have to use a bit of common sense and just do it.

 

Armchair critic... finger pointer. The country has loads at the moment. Easy when you don’t have to make actual decisions. Bet half of parliament are secretly chuffed they don’t have to stick their necks out.

 

You posted the anticipated numbers of deaths resulting from a pandemic, best case 20,000, worst case 750,00. Yes, deaths. You do seem to be having difficulty accepting the fact that people were going to die from this and are doing so.

Should have, could have, would have, all in the here and now, meaningless. We are where we are with this bloody thing. Many months away from a vaccine? Yes, it would have been prudent to set the scientific community, virologists to work on a vaccine. Assemble the great and mighty, we have a problem, well, to be more exact, we MAY have a problem, we need a vaccine for a virus. "What does it look like?" Dunno, can we get back to you when we do?
Great news boss,we have trained up thousands of ICU specialist nurses. In, fact we have that many they only need work one day a week to remain current. Costing a fookin fortune, but hey, ya know, just in case. A bit like that warehouse full of ppe we burnt last week.

 

Lots seemed to be suggesting April 8th was the peak. That’s probably not going to be officially confirmed for a week or two more yet because some people will see that as an excuse to start going out again.

 

Where to? I guess it says a lot about my priorities, but shutting the pubs made the rest of the lockdown academic for me.

 

Under normal circumstances, the elderly and vulnerable are not allowed out of hospital until the Social Services have a care plan in place. This can take weeks if not months and is the main cause of "bed blocking" My mum ended up in a hospital/care home in Beverley on two occasions and Withernsea on one occasion. Trouble is, the hospital beds are needed for Covid and, to be honest, hospitals are never healthy places for the infirm, particularly now.

 

Hull City Council says it is doing all it can to mitigate the risk of coronavirus at its care homes.

Councillor Gwen Lunn, portfolio holder for adult services and public health, said: “The health, safety and wellbeing of our residents and colleagues is of paramount importance, and we are working closely with our care providers to ensure we can support them in any way possible.

“Care homes have implemented their pandemic contingency plans and are following all Public Health and NHS guidelines, including isolating residents within their rooms and limiting visits to the care home to healthcare professionals and essential visits only.


Making up said policies would seem to be a requirement for approval? licensing? whatever the terminology is, to run a care home.

 

That's Roy Disney's grand daughter just an FYI not Walt's

 

Care homes are only now getting regular PPE though so some earlier problems are down to lack of PPE supplies

 

I have no problem dealing with death, its inevitable. I'll deal with it when it happens. When it happens to me I'll no longer care.

 

Their PPE guidance was issued nationally, it’s just they could’ve get any at first
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