No it doesn't appear that any of those things have come true. Just because we haven't sold anyone yet, when the window isn't even open doesn't mean they won't be leaving. They are pissed off about Barmby leaving and a crap new manager will be the final straw for some of them. If it was a good manager it might have the opposite effect, I don't know, but they are definitely annoyed about it and OLM has heard from somewhere that they wanted to start selling some of the better players, that isn't speculative when it comes from a trusted source. Speculative is exactly what you're doing stating that 'it appears' all of these things aren't happening, just because they denied it. Of course they bloody denied it, they aren't going to say yes we plan to sell the backbone of the team and spend as little as possible. I don't know if you saw it but he also asked if the club isn't up for sale, why have they just produced a prospectus? The AP thing will probably (and this is where we don't have information so it is just my opinion/speculation) be something to do with a fallout they had where they were probably both very stubborn. I doubt it'll be something detrimental to the club that he did a la Maguire's sacking. This statement of 'it now appears' just because they deny it is exactly the kind of thing I would call naiive. NB will come out and tell a different story at some point, will you just believe that instantly too? Surely it works both ways?
I appreciate you explaining your point of view but I don't see fans reaction as over-reaction at all, thats just your opinion, to say anybody else having a different one is full of **** is a bit arrogant. It depends whether you care about things, maybe you don't fair enough, some people do.
Your trusted source is the Allams - Er no it is just reading what they have said in an interview or statement. You choose to believe everything they say like they are god. Other people can see between the lines and will wait for actions rather than words.
Just for the record, I have no direct information on the Allam's actively seeking to sell any key players, my previous posts on the matter related to something that's happened that might make a couple of our first team players keener to move on, but that's all. I've no idea how they players have reacted to Nick's sacking(other than the outgoing/fringe players who've tweeted), I suspect they'll just be waiting to see who the new manager is, just like the rest of us. I also see a big difference between the sackings of AP and NB. In the case of AP, something has obviously gone on, I think we were in a better position with him at the club, but I've been expecting his departure for a while now. The major issue for me in his case, was simply the fact that having done so much for the club, he deserve a more gracious exit. As for Nick, I don't think I need explain further than I already have, I simply don't accept that he's done anything that warranted a sacking.
OLM might not name his sources (he has actually, we both know one was close to Nick but he's also mentioned there are some sponsors on the inside before, and they aren't going to be biased to Barmby) but they have been proven true enough times in the past to show most regular posters on here that he knows what he's talking about. NB's side will come out one day, hopefully sooner rather than later, and without doubt it will contradict what the Allams have said. We won't be any wiser for it because we already know he's going to say it really. I've posted before that I met Liam Rosenior just after he'd found out about it and he was livid, absolutely mad about it. As well as that a few players have tweeted and expressed their concerns, there's no doubt that they are annoyed about it. Transfer requests might not have been made (they very rarely ever are) but do you think it's a coincidence that after the news came out about Barmby that Koren was suddenly linked with every other Championship club? Either he was on the phone to his agent saying "get me out of here" or the club were on the phone to others saying "Koren is available." That interest didn't come from nowhere. They have nothing to gain by selling, but the suggestion is they don't realise that. It's that they think they can keep buying PL juniors on the cheap and selling them for millions, like we could do with Chester and Stewart now. Thing is that isn't possible without a manager who wants them. The Allams statement is not fact. It is what they want us to think. It's a fact that they said it, but it is not a fact that it's true.
The above is the exact reason that I have never slated OLM or meant to imply he is or was wrong. I lean more to the Allams side because I unlike many, I did not support the Adam Pearson return. I have always said that he was not the saviour that he was portrayed as. Yes he was the front man for the first purchase of City and yes he worked hard to get another consortium together but lets look from another angle at the current situation. Russell Bartlett brings Adam Pearson back to the club. Adam contacts various business men (most of whom are still vice presidents of the club) to form a consortium inorder to buy the club. Savings have to be made and the cut and slash of staff begins. Phil Brown is sacked and a desperate hiring brings Ian Dowie in to replace him. The consortium implodes when the revealed debts get beyond 36m. At 42m the Allams begin to waiver, they are the only ones left in the process. Desparate talks are held and in the end the Allams agree terms and sign even though the debt now stands at 46m. Adam Pearsons assurances that saving could be made and the stadium could be handed over worked. The Allams buy into the view that the KC could at some point be developed, who put that idea into the mix? remember the meeting with the council before the purchase. There is wide spread condemnation for the Allams and addoration for Pearson, sorry folks I have the right to express my view, the bloke is not a saint. By the way I expect the Allams to be hard hearted when it comes to business, its the only way. Do I think that they are the best thing since sliced bead no! But they do not deserve the flak, yet.
I support the Allams and will until they flog all our players and appoint a **** manager on the cheap before getting City relegated . Which in my opinion is a crock of **** and isn't going to happen .
I don't think they could get rid of one, without getting agro from the other, so they probably thought **** it, we'll do 'em both at once.
Fair do's mate, your first comment on the thread does come over like that though. Everybody is entitled to their opinion right or wrong.
Spot on! I just wish there had been more made out of the fact that Assem and Adam sat next each other at UPton Park. I think Adam cooked Nicks goose explaining why we where not winning. (who knows) OLM was it a Raich Carter style error?
Reading between the lines is just a phrase to mean I don't necessarily believe every word written is the entire truth. I am not saying they are lying, I just think there is more to it then they are saying. How many times must we go over this. We have only heard one side of the story. Simple really
