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Seabass

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Have you all heard this about Cardiff's new signing going missing on the flight over?

Sounds like his plane crashed in the Channel and they are looking for survivors.

They were talking to a pilot on SSN and he was saying it was not really a good idea to by flying a single engine prop at night over water at this time of year.
 
Consett Mag said:
If the plane went down into the channel last night, there's two fatalities without question.
Tragic for two families.
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Afraid so, it would be basically impossible for anyone to survive for long periods in the water at anytime, but in mid winter, there's absolutely no chance.

Horrible news for all involved. Only 28 as well, and clearly talented.
 
Seabass said:
Sounds awful. Apparently he left a voice message forhis family telling them he was scared and on a plane that feels like it's going to fall apart
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For me this is the concerning bit, I've heard from many that those 2 person planes are lightweight and very dangerous in bad weather.... what were they doing in one of those?
 
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Sala reportedly sent a WhatsApp voice message to family, saying he was "really scared".

Media in Argentina reported that he said: "I'm on a plane that looks like it's going to fall apart."

Tragic if true - hate flying personally and need a good stiff drink before getting on a plane, be a horrible last few mins of existence sitting in a small tin can a couple of thousand feet up while it falls apart around you...
 
G4rdToonArmy said:
hate flying personally and need a good stiff drink before getting on a plane, be a horrible last few mins of existence sitting in a small tin can a couple of thousand feet up while it falls apart around you...
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this x 100. I normally need at least 3 beers before I get on a plane. Have had some rough flights recently when the plane has been rocking with the turbulence, and absolutely shat myself.

I know it's one of the more safe ways to travel, but news like this (and those Newcastle fans who died when there plane was shot a few years ago) just shows how helpless you are in a plane if anything goes wrong.
 
Charlie Dogscock said:
For me this is the concerning bit, I've heard from many that those 2 person planes are lightweight and very dangerous in bad weather.... what were they doing in one of those?
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G4rdToonArmy said:
Sala reportedly sent a WhatsApp voice message to family, saying he was "really scared".

Media in Argentina reported that he said: "I'm on a plane that looks like it's going to fall apart."

Tragic if true - hate flying personally and need a good stiff drink before getting on a plane, be a horrible last few mins of existence sitting in a small tin can a couple of thousand feet up while it falls apart around you...
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Suspect that his comments were the comments of someone not used to flying in small planes. This must have been a Charter Co so it should have been in good condition. However no doubt that in a single engine plane if something goes wrong with that engine only choice is to glide it down and try and land it. In the middle of the english channel that tends to mean you are going to end up in water unless very lucky.

If Cardiff arranged this charter they should be asking some serious questions as to why a single engine propeller plane was used instead of a proper business jet or a commercial airline, particularly as they are not playing this weekend anyway.
 
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Dorty Dogbreath said:
You can keep helicopters and small single-engine planes. I personally wouldn't risk it.
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Aye...**** that like. I love flying but had one of them Aer Lingus twin prop jobbies from Dublin back to Newcastle a few years back...that was bad enough in the wind and they are bigger than the one Sala was on.
 
Obviously tragic series of events. I think everyone is asking the same question though, what was the thinking behind that mode of transport. You'd expect either a private jet or more likely a commercial airline. Essentially the plane will have been in good condition you would think. Timing wise in these wintery conditions, why fly at night too? Icing etc would be of concern but to be honest these light aircraft fly in much worse conditions than they did, and the pre flight checks should have seen the risk managed.
 
Warm Pouch said:
Obviously tragic series of events. I think everyone is asking the same question though, what was the thinking behind that mode of transport. You'd expect either a private jet or more likely a commercial airline. Essentially the plane will have been in good condition you would think. Timing wise in these wintery conditions, why fly at night too? Icing etc would be of concern but to be honest these light aircraft fly in much worse conditions than they did, and the pre flight checks should have seen the risk managed.
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I heard he had booked it himself, Nantes confirmed they didn't book the plane and I doubt Cardiff would have booked their record signing on to a single prop plane for an overnight flight.

Just searched it online in fact and I know its the S*n but...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/8260614/emiliano-sala-flight-crash-channel/
 
Aviation expert and former pilot Alastair Rosenschein said Sala shouldn't have been making the journey.
Rosenchein added the Piper Malibu had a terrible track record of crashing - with 160 serious crashes, 55 of which were fatal.
He said: "It's very surprising that they should ask to descend at night over water in a single engine aircraft.
"It's already a fairly risky crossing to do in a single engine aircraft, especially in winter and definitely at night. There are icing problems too.
"It's a strange thing to do though to go and fly over water with one engine at night in winter because if your engine goes you're going in the water.
"When I looked it up it has had over 160 serious crashes that's a fairly large number - 55 of them were fatal accidents.
"That's a large number for an aircraft that does not have such a large production number.
 
Charlie Dogscock said:
this x 100. I normally need at least 3 beers before I get on a plane. Have had some rough flights recently when the plane has been rocking with the turbulence, and absolutely shat myself.

I know it's one of the more safe ways to travel, but news like this (and those Newcastle fans who died when there plane was shot a few years ago) just shows how helpless you are in a plane if anything goes wrong.
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It never used to bother me, I came back from Miami on the back of a tropical storm in 93, the plane kept dropping out of the sky, it felt like 1000's of feet at a time, and people were freaking the **** out, screaming and praying, I was exhilarated. I flew a lot through the 90's, nothing like that happened again, but I started getting nervous on take off and landing about 10 years ago.
 
Charlie Dogscock said:
this x 100. I normally need at least 3 beers before I get on a plane. Have had some rough flights recently when the plane has been rocking with the turbulence, and absolutely shat myself.

I know it's one of the more safe ways to travel, but news like this (and those Newcastle fans who died when there plane was shot a few years ago) just shows how helpless you are in a plane if anything goes wrong.
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Turbulence tip....

Over the wing
Left hand side
Aisle seat
Bigger plane

Thank me later:)

Oh and 4-5 beers often helps better.
 
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