Sakho Suspended For Failing Doping Test.

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So Sakho is caught taking drugs and it somehow 'stinks'?

Hahaha typical Kopite mentality right there
had a funny feeling mr neutral would have an opinion on liverpool matters.

the bit that stinks as you very well fecking know, is the other things that surrounded that game, but you carry on spouting your usual bollocks.
 
had a funny feeling mr neutral would have an opinion on liverpool matters.

the bit that stinks as you very well fecking know, is the other things that surrounded that game, but you carry on spouting your usual bollocks.
Yawn.

Go cry into your Cornflakes about the injustice of it all.

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From what i have seen every media outlet has been very careful to point out this is an individual charge not a team one. personally i have no time for cheats particularly where drugs are are involved. There should be zero tolerance if Sahko is proved guilty.
I do not care who it may be. There is no defence - a pro footballer holds a position of trust in the community. This is not a time for points scoring - this is a situation all sport faces. Allowing wiggle room just underlines the arrogance of those controlling the game today.
If guilty minimum 2 year ban and the inability to represent his country ever, i also think that they should have a percentage of their earnings donated to drug rehab/education programmes. Once ban over should be allowed to continue.
 
FYI, here's the FA's advice on supplements (not UEFA):

The FA does not recommend that players take supplements. Players are strongly advised to be very cautious if they choose to take any supplement such as vitamin tablets, energy drinks, or sport-nutrition formulas. This is because there is no guarantee that any supplement is free from banned substance.

Assess the consequences: you could receive a four-year ban from football. You can reduce the risks by:
  • undertaking thorough internet research
  • only using batch-tested products
  • checking on Informed-Sport (which is a risk minimisation programme) that the supplement has been batch tested
If you test positive due to taking a contaminated supplement, to get a reduced sanction you must be able to evidence that you did substantial research to check whether the product contained any banned substances prior to consuming it. For example, by being able to evidence internet searches on the ingredients listed on the product and searches on the website of a risk minimisation scheme, such as Informed Sport (www.informed-sport.com).


Let's hope Sakho doesn't regularly clear his browsing history.

Maybe you'd think players shouldn't take anything not given by the club doctor but IMO that's dangerous since if the doctor makes a single ****-up it could affect a few players at once and turn it from an individual problem to a club one. Players ultimately need to take responsibility for themselves.

Here's an example of one possible mistake the FA warn about, not easy to spot but then this is a professional footballer's full-time job

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FYI, here's the FA's advice on supplements (not UEFA):

The FA does not recommend that players take supplements. Players are strongly advised to be very cautious if they choose to take any supplement such as vitamin tablets, energy drinks, or sport-nutrition formulas. This is because there is no guarantee that any supplement is free from banned substance.

Assess the consequences: you could receive a four-year ban from football. You can reduce the risks by:
  • undertaking thorough internet research
  • only using batch-tested products
  • checking on Informed-Sport (which is a risk minimisation programme) that the supplement has been batch tested
If you test positive due to taking a contaminated supplement, to get a reduced sanction you must be able to evidence that you did substantial research to check whether the product contained any banned substances prior to consuming it. For example, by being able to evidence internet searches on the ingredients listed on the product and searches on the website of a risk minimisation scheme, such as Informed Sport (www.informed-sport.com).


Let's hope Sakho doesn't regularly clear his browsing history.

Maybe you'd think players shouldn't take anything not given by the club doctor but IMO that's dangerous since if the doctor makes a single ****-up it could affect a few players at once and turn it from an individual problem to a club one. Players ultimately need to take responsibility for themselves.

Here's an example of one possible mistake the FA warn about, not easy to spot but then this is a professional footballer's full-time job

You must log in or register to see images

Even someone taking fat burners is someone trying to take a shortcut - I have no time for that. He should have bought some chickens end of. Totally agree that in the end it is their own responsibility.

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Treble has posted a thread on the subject on the premier league board.

"Lets begin by saying Sakho is innocent until proven guilty. We will very likely have to wait to see what comes back from his Test B sample.

But it is a serious point. If a player gets caught for doping in one game that doesnt mean he cheated in one game, it just happens to be the one he got caught in. Assuming he's tested positive for taking banned performance related substances, surely every game he has played is now suspect.

Secondly, and equally importantly, banning him alone doesn't undo the damage. It's a team sport and his team has had an unfair advantage.

Nothing will be done ofcourse but it is unfair on every club he's played against. I think every fan of every club should be rightly fcked off by this."

http://www.not606.com/threads/is-it-time-to-change-the-doping-punishment.327784/


Treble is very deluded to assume the player hasn't been negatively tested in games previous to the EL game at OT by a combination of Uefa and Premier League/FA testers, regardless of that he reckons the allegedly guilty player's team and team mates should also be sanctioned irrespective of them taking no part or not knowing what the player in question had taken.

Sounds like Treble wants Uefa to overturn the EL result and get United into the EL semi final.<whistle>

As if it wasn't humiliating enough getting hosed by us, can you imagine what Dortmund would have done to them? FFS, they needed an extra, extra time winner against the reserve side of the the reserve side that we beat 4-0 and could easily have scored 8 against.

In fact, bring it on - I'd love to see what Dortmund would do to them.
 
As if it wasn't humiliating enough getting hosed by us, can you imagine what Dortmund would have done to them? FFS, they needed an extra, extra time winner against the reserve side of the the reserve side that we beat 4-0 and could easily have scored 8 against.

In fact, bring it on - I'd love to see what Dortmund would do to them.
Yep, you beat Dortmund. That's something to tell the grandkids about <ok>
 
FYI, here's the FA's advice on supplements (not UEFA):

The FA does not recommend that players take supplements. Players are strongly advised to be very cautious if they choose to take any supplement such as vitamin tablets, energy drinks, or sport-nutrition formulas. This is because there is no guarantee that any supplement is free from banned substance.

Assess the consequences: you could receive a four-year ban from football. You can reduce the risks by:
  • undertaking thorough internet research
  • only using batch-tested products
  • checking on Informed-Sport (which is a risk minimisation programme) that the supplement has been batch tested
If you test positive due to taking a contaminated supplement, to get a reduced sanction you must be able to evidence that you did substantial research to check whether the product contained any banned substances prior to consuming it. For example, by being able to evidence internet searches on the ingredients listed on the product and searches on the website of a risk minimisation scheme, such as Informed Sport (www.informed-sport.com).


Let's hope Sakho doesn't regularly clear his browsing history.

Maybe you'd think players shouldn't take anything not given by the club doctor but IMO that's dangerous since if the doctor makes a single ****-up it could affect a few players at once and turn it from an individual problem to a club one. Players ultimately need to take responsibility for themselves.

Here's an example of one possible mistake the FA warn about, not easy to spot but then this is a professional footballer's full-time job

You must log in or register to see images
FYI, here's the FA's advice on supplements (not UEFA):

The FA does not recommend that players take supplements. Players are strongly advised to be very cautious if they choose to take any supplement such as vitamin tablets, energy drinks, or sport-nutrition formulas. This is because there is no guarantee that any supplement is free from banned substance.

Assess the consequences: you could receive a four-year ban from football. You can reduce the risks by:
  • undertaking thorough internet research
  • only using batch-tested products
  • checking on Informed-Sport (which is a risk minimisation programme) that the supplement has been batch tested
If you test positive due to taking a contaminated supplement, to get a reduced sanction you must be able to evidence that you did substantial research to check whether the product contained any banned substances prior to consuming it. For example, by being able to evidence internet searches on the ingredients listed on the product and searches on the website of a risk minimisation scheme, such as Informed Sport (www.informed-sport.com).


Let's hope Sakho doesn't regularly clear his browsing history.

Maybe you'd think players shouldn't take anything not given by the club doctor but IMO that's dangerous since if the doctor makes a single ****-up it could affect a few players at once and turn it from an individual problem to a club one. Players ultimately need to take responsibility for themselves.

Here's an example of one possible mistake the FA warn about, not easy to spot but then this is a professional footballer's full-time job

You must log in or register to see images

Yes, that's precisely what I think. I used to do low-level club running like cross-country and 10k road races. I wasn't very good. Even at my level we knew never to take ANYTHING that you wasn't sure of, including most 'natural' stuff from Holland and Barrett. It's all got stimulents in it. I must admit that i thought diet pills (which I've taken) were mostly caffeine. Nonetheless, I wouldn't go within a mile of them if I were a professional athlete.

I work on the railways. We've had a stringent drugs and alcohol policy, including testing, for nearly three decades. I remember once one of my members of staff saying that they were alright to smoke 'herbal' cigarettes they got from the internet because they were legal. No you're not,actually, as the railway deems a chemical in them as being an halucegenic. and you signed a contract saying that you'd abide by the rules (whether you agree with them or not - he was a ****ing clerk and I'm sure no-one would have died if he'd been as wasted as a hippy, but that's not the point).

If Sakho has been taking a banned substance, regardless as to it's actual performance enhancing potential (not exactly steroids, is it?), then unless the club doctor has been prescribing them (and that would open up a world of fire) there's utterly no excuse and he should be banned and sold every bit as much as if he'd been smoking a crack pipe pre-season. He's a professional athlete who can afford his own doctor on hand 24/7 (not that he needs that - he has the club doctor to ask any advice from). Nothing should go into his body that isn't approved by a doctor, and even in a medical emergency their should be a clear audit trail. No excuses - he's supposed to be a professional. IF the sample B comes back positive he's out, and that's that.
 
And we have beaten Everton to get to an actual final :emoticon-0100-smile

I seem to remember that when we beat you in Europe the official line was "It doesn't count for anything if you don't go on to win the competition". Funny how your tune has changed now?
 
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